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Fri, 30 Oct 2026 06:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2c0f:3d00:6be:8900:ce5e:9212:ea4b:f30]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-4ac0950d533sm34613455e9.3.2026.10.30.06.54.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 30 Oct 2026 06:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2026 16:54:16 +0300 From: Dan Carpenter To: Alex Elder Cc: Sakari Ailus , Frank.Li@oss.nxp.com, Frank Li , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Andrzej Kacprowski , Karol Wachowski , Oded Gabbay , Jani Nikula , Joonas Lahtinen , Rodrigo Vivi , Tvrtko Ursulin , Matthew Brost , Thomas Hellstrom , David Airlie , Simona Vetter , Alex Elder , Will Deacon , Robin Murphy , Joerg Roedel , Rob Clark , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Guenter Roeck , Guan-Yu Lin , Mathias Nyman , linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org, imx@lists.linux.dev, Rob Herring Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] PM: runtime: change stub pm_runtime_get_if_active() return 1 when !CONFIG_PM Message-ID: References: <20261029163044.3062958-1-Frank.Li@oss.nxp.com> <9207a52e-2d42-4e10-b777-2988e84d7dbe@ieee.org> X-Archived-By: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9207a52e-2d42-4e10-b777-2988e84d7dbe@ieee.org> X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.9.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20261030_065423_633847_D3EFC74B X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 24.09 ) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on aws-us-west-2-korg-listserv-alma10-1 On Fri, Oct 30, 2026 at 08:46:07AM -0500, Alex Elder wrote: > On 10/30/26 3:57 AM, Sakari Ailus wrote: > > Hi Frank, > > > > Thanks for the patch. > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 12:30:37PM -0400, Frank.Li@oss.nxp.com wrote: > > > From: Frank Li > > > > > > When CONFIG_PM is not enabled, all devices runtime PM state should be > > > treated as active. > > > > > > __pm_runtime_resume() returns 1 (called by pm_runtime_get()). > > > pm_runtime_get_if_active() is the try-and-get version of pm_runtime_get(). > > > stub pm_runtime_active() also returns true. So pm_runtime_get_if_active() > > > should return the same value as the stub pm_runtime_get(), which is 1. > > > > Shouldn't the same change be done to pm_runtime_get_if_in_use()? It's > > otherwise the same, except that it requires also the use count to be > > non-zero. > I think "yes." > > I think the logic for !CONFIG_PM should basically pretend runtime > PM is enabled for all devices, and they're all ACTIVE and effectively > in use. > > That implies: > - disable_depth == 0, so usage accounting would (if enabled) be done > - runtime_status == RPM_ACTIVE (power is on, no delay) > - usage_count > 0 > - runtime_error == 0 > - Maybe ignore_children is false? > > This might not be complete (and could be wrong!). > We could add this kind of information as a comment somewhere? regards, dan carpenter