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From: Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 23/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry generation counter event
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 20:17:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <avYe37QP4Upvp51c@pluto> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261110144635.00005964@oss.qualcomm.com>

On Tue, Nov 10, 2026 at 02:46:35PM -0800, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Mon,  9 Nov 2026 09:12:09 +0000
> Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> > Add a per-instance generation counter to track configuration changes which
> > uses the common telemetry events framework.
> Why?  What's the usecase for this?
> Needs some more information or I'd leave it for now.
> 

SCMI Telemetry is specified and designed FW/Kernel side to allow for
multiple readers and multiple writers issuing configuration changes:
give that there is NO HW/FW/SPEC limitation in allowing such concurrency
(unlike e.g. for a serial or an RTC) the telemetry driver does NOT
enfroce any kind of exclusive access...last one wins when multiple
acctors tries to configure overlapping stuff...none of kernel problem
userspace should co-ordinate...and I suspect most of the time having
multiple apps trying to concurrently issue conflicting Telemetry request
would be a matter of wrong platform configuration/setup (similarly to
what would happen by running together all the lovely varied network
configiratio solution on a Linux box...)

As said the Kernel SHOULD NOT care, going back to the networking example
Kernel indeed does NOT active policy netlink access..you are free to shot
into your foot...

Anyway, co-ordinating access to the Telemetry resources in userspace can
be a pain, so the the generation counter is an optional mechanism to be
alerted when some of the Telemetry has been changed, so that userspace
can spot that something odd is happening (if it was unexpected) and
avoid to sample and analyze bogus data...

The generic event support upon which this is based, it is meant to
support future events like relaying notifications to userspace...but
given that notifs were NOT implemented for real, it is not present (NOR
the related ABI...)

Thanks,
Cristian


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-12 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-09  9:11 [PATCH v15 00/35] Introduce SCMI Telemetry support Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 01/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Harden iterators state parsing Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09 21:57   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-10  8:19     ` Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 02/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add new SCMIv4.0 error codes definitions Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 03/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Introduce a dedicated SCMI Errors header Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09 22:01   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-10  8:23     ` Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 04/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Allow registration of unknown-size events/reports Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09 22:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-10  8:27     ` Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 05/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Refactor __scmi_event_handler_get_ops helper Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 06/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Introduce protocol instance notifiers Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09 23:32   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 07/35] dt-bindings: firmware: arm,scmi: Add support for telemetry protocol Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 08/35] include: trace: Add Telemetry trace events Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 09/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry basic attributes enumeration Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09 23:57   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 10/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry resources enumeration Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10  1:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-10 15:33     ` Cristian Marussi
2026-11-12 18:01   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-12 19:56     ` Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 11/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry groups initialization Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10  1:53   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 12/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry update intervals enumeration Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10  2:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:11 ` [PATCH v15 13/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry SHMTI areas enumeration Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10  2:26   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 14/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry TDCF areas parsing support Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 18:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 15/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry TDCF parsing for BLK_TS lines Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 18:33   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 16/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry TDCF parsing for UUID lines Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 18:49   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 17/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry configuration operations Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 20:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 18/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry DataEvent read capabilities Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 21:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-12  4:30   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 19/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry reset logic Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 22:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 20/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry notification support Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 22:16   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 21/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry boot-on support Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 22:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 22/35] firmware: arm-scmi: Add Telemetry generic event support Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 22:33   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-12 19:58     ` Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 23/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry generation counter event Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 22:46   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-12 20:17     ` Cristian Marussi [this message]
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 24/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add common per-protocol debugfs support Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 22:50   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 25/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry debugfs SHMTI dump support Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 22:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 26/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Telemetry debugfs ABI documentation Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 22:55   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 27/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Expose per-instance identifier Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 22:57   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 28/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add un-managed methods to get/put protocols operations Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 23:01   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-10 23:18   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 29/35] uapi: Add ARM SCMI Telemetry definitions Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 23:13   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 30/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Add System Telemetry driver Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 23:46   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 31/35] firmware: arm_scmi: Enable autoloading for " Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 32/35] docs: ioctl-number: Add SCMI Ioctls Cristian Marussi
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 33/35] Documentation: Add SCMI System Telemetry documentation Cristian Marussi
2026-11-10 23:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 34/35] [RFC] kselftest/arm64: Add SCMI Telemetry UAPI compliance testcases Cristian Marussi
2026-11-11  0:13   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH v15 35/35] [RFC] tools/testing/scmi: Add SCMI Telemetry testing tool Cristian Marussi
2026-11-11  0:16   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-11  0:38 ` [PATCH v15 00/35] Introduce SCMI Telemetry support Jonathan Cameron
2026-11-11  9:51   ` Sudeep Holla
2026-11-11 10:15   ` Cristian Marussi
2026-11-11 18:39     ` Jonathan Cameron

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