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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Pankaj Patil <quic_pankpati@quicinc.com>,
	Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	Chen Lin <chen45464546@163.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, quic_sibis@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/arm-smmu: Don't disable next-page prefetcher on devices it works on
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2024 13:33:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b54649a0-3bba-4c05-bc53-a5c62e1a36b8@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98d56e5e-47ca-45d8-8e0e-07c204fcc04b@quicinc.com>

On 07/10/2024 11:03 am, Pankaj Patil wrote:
> On 9/4/2024 1:59 PM, Pankaj Patil wrote:
>> On 5/17/2024 10:49 PM, Doug Anderson wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 9:37 AM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 04:13:47PM -0700, Douglas Anderson wrote:
>>>>> On sc7180 trogdor devices we get a scary warning at bootup:
>>>>>    arm-smmu 15000000.iommu:
>>>>>    Failed to disable prefetcher [errata #841119 and #826419], check ACR.CACHE_LOCK
>>>>>
>>>>> We spent some time trying to figure out how we were going to fix these
>>>>> errata and whether we needed to do a firmware update. Upon closer
>>>>> inspection, however, we realized that the errata don't apply to us.
>>>>> Specifically, the errata document says that for these errata:
>>>>> * Found in: r0p0
>>>>> * Fixed in: r2p2
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and trogdor devices appear to be running r2p4. That means that they
>>>>> are unaffected despite the scary warning.
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue is that the kernel unconditionally tries to disable the
>>>>> prefetcher even on unaffected devices and then warns when it's unable
>>>>> to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's change the kernel to only disable the prefetcher on affected
>>>>> devices, which will get rid of the scary warning on devices that are
>>>>> unaffected. As per the comment the prefetcher is
>>>>> "not-particularly-beneficial" but it shouldn't hurt to leave it on for
>>>>> devices where it doesn't cause problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fixes: f87f6e5b4539 ("iommu/arm-smmu: Warn once when the perfetcher errata patch fails to apply")
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>>   drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu/arm-smmu-impl.c | 21 +++++++++++++--------
>>>>>   1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just curious, but did you see any performance impact (good or bad) as a
>>>> result of this patch? The next-page prefetcher has always looked a little
>>>> naive to me and, with a tendency for tiny TLBs in some implementations,
>>>> there's a possibility it could do more harm than good.
>>>
>>> This patch actually makes no difference on trogdor today other than
>>> getting rid of the scary warning. Specifically on trogdor the
>>> ACR.CACHE_LOCK bit seems to be set so the kernel is unable to change
>>> the setting anyway and has never been able to. We are working on
>>> figuring out how to fix the firmware and then we have to get a
>>> firmware spin before we can really see any changes. I'll keep an eye
>>> out to see if performance numbers change when the firmware uprevs.
>>>
>>> BTW: any idea how big of a deal these errata are? We're _just_
>>> finishing a firmware uprev process and there is always pushback
>>> against kicking off a new one unless the issue is important. Given
>>> that we've been living with this issue since devices shipped I'm going
>>> to assume we don't need to rush a firmware update, but if this is
>>> really scary and needs to be addressed sooner we can figure that out.
>>>
>>> -Doug
>>
>> Receiving the warning on pre-silicon platforms as well, despite being unaffected. If merged, it will help in reducing log clutter.
>> The patch applies cleanly on the tip of linux-next, tag: next-20240904.
>>
> Following up on the patch. Please let me know if any additional
> changes are required.

Surely at pre-silicon there's really very little excuse for not just 
fixing the firmware? Anyway, it remains the case that the real issue 
here is the message and comment being misleadingly over-specific, and I 
already sent a patch to address that[1].

Thanks,
Robin.

[1] 
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/7c426dc0-4fde-4d1e-bb91-538984bd8b59@arm.com/


      reply	other threads:[~2024-10-08 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-13 23:13 [PATCH] iommu/arm-smmu: Don't disable next-page prefetcher on devices it works on Douglas Anderson
2024-05-14 17:14 ` Robin Murphy
2024-05-17 16:37 ` Will Deacon
2024-05-17 17:19   ` Doug Anderson
2024-09-04  8:29     ` Pankaj Patil
2024-10-07 10:03       ` Pankaj Patil
2024-10-08 12:33         ` Robin Murphy [this message]

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