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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alex Kogan <alex.kogan@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, guohanjun@huawei.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	dave.dice@oracle.com, jglauber@marvell.com, x86@kernel.org,
	will.deacon@arm.com, linux@armlinux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	hpa@zytor.com, steven.sistare@oracle.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 4/5] locking/qspinlock: Introduce starvation avoidance into CNA
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:45:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfdf635d-be2e-9d4b-c4ca-6bcbddc6868f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200121132949.GL14914@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 1/21/20 8:29 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 02:40:41PM -0500, Alex Kogan wrote:
>
>> +/*
>> + * Controls the threshold for the number of intra-node lock hand-offs before
>> + * the NUMA-aware variant of spinlock is forced to be passed to a thread on
>> + * another NUMA node. By default, the chosen value provides reasonable
>> + * long-term fairness without sacrificing performance compared to a lock
>> + * that does not have any fairness guarantees. The default setting can
>> + * be changed with the "numa_spinlock_threshold" boot option.
>> + */
>> +int intra_node_handoff_threshold __ro_after_init = 1 << 16;
> There is a distinct lack of quantitative data to back up that
> 'reasonable' claim there.
>
> Where is the table of inter-node latencies observed for the various
> values tested, and on what criteria is this number deemed reasonable?
>
> To me, 64k lock hold times seems like a giant number, entirely outside
> of reasonable.

I actually had similar question before, but having the capability of
changing the default with boot time parameter alleviate some of my
concern. I will certainly like to see actual data on how different
values will affect the performance of the code.

Cheers,
Longman


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-01-21 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-30 19:40 [PATCH v8 0/5] Add NUMA-awareness to qspinlock Alex Kogan
2019-12-30 19:40 ` [PATCH v8 1/5] locking/qspinlock: Rename mcs lock/unlock macros and make them more generic Alex Kogan
2019-12-30 19:40 ` [PATCH v8 2/5] locking/qspinlock: Refactor the qspinlock slow path Alex Kogan
2019-12-30 19:40 ` [PATCH v8 3/5] locking/qspinlock: Introduce CNA into the slow path of qspinlock Alex Kogan
2020-01-03 22:14   ` Waiman Long
2020-01-06 15:02     ` Alex Kogan
2020-01-21 13:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-21 14:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-30 19:40 ` [PATCH v8 4/5] locking/qspinlock: Introduce starvation avoidance into CNA Alex Kogan
2020-01-06 15:33   ` Waiman Long
2020-01-21 13:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-21 13:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-21 21:19       ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2020-01-21 15:45     ` Waiman Long [this message]
     [not found]       ` <3862F8A1-FF9B-40AD-A88E-2C0BA7AF6F58@oracle.com>
2020-01-24  7:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-24 14:42           ` Waiman Long
2020-01-24 15:13             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-24 15:19             ` Waiman Long
     [not found]               ` <8D3AFB47-B595-418C-9568-08780DDC58FF@oracle.com>
     [not found]                 ` <714892cd-d96f-4d41-ae8b-d7b7642a6e3c@redhat.com>
2020-01-25 11:16                   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                   ` <1669BFDE-A1A5-4ED8-B586-035460BBF68A@oracle.com>
     [not found]                     ` <45660873-731a-a810-8c57-1a5a19d266b4@redhat.com>
2020-01-24 18:51                       ` Waiman Long
2020-01-25 11:20                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-25 19:57                         ` Waiman Long
     [not found]                       ` <693E6287-E37C-4C5D-BE33-B3D813BE505D@oracle.com>
2020-01-24 21:12                         ` Waiman Long
2020-01-24 21:27                           ` Alex Kogan
2020-01-25  0:38                             ` Waiman Long
2020-01-25 11:19                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-30 22:05                       ` Alex Kogan
2020-02-03 13:45                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-03 14:59                           ` Waiman Long
2020-02-03 15:28                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-03 15:47                               ` Waiman Long
     [not found]                                 ` <83762715-F68C-42DF-9B41-C4C48DF6762F@oracle.com>
2020-02-04 17:27                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-04 17:39                                     ` Waiman Long
2020-02-04 17:53                                       ` Alex Kogan
2019-12-30 19:40 ` [PATCH v8 5/5] locking/qspinlock: Introduce the shuffle reduction optimization " Alex Kogan
2020-01-22  9:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-06 15:48 ` [PATCH v8 0/5] Add NUMA-awareness to qspinlock Waiman Long
2020-01-08  5:09 ` Shijith Thotton
2020-01-21  9:21   ` Shijith Thotton

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