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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Vijayanand Jitta <vijayanand.jitta@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel (AMD)" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Prakash Gupta <prakash.gupta@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Add support for contiguous hint bit
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 18:45:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d20d258d-d970-4ef1-bbb6-cdc83fc20c9d@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260715125039.GA50536@nvidia.com>

On 15/07/2026 1:50 pm, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 01:14:18PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> 
>> Conversely though, I really wouldn't want to have to maintain arm-smmu
>> supporting two completely different pagetable APIs simultaneously either :/
> 
> Does arm-smmu era HW even support CONT?

Yes, it goes all the way back to ARMv7 LPAE, predating even SMMUv1, and 
certainly at least Arm's implementations (MMU-400/401/500) can all make 
meaningful use of it.

> AFAICR the biggest issue with arm-smmu was it using IO_PGTABLE_ARMV7S
> as well. I think it would be fine to implement all the unique LPAE
> features it needs in iommupt, I did most of them already.
> 
> I do have an ARMV7S implementation for iommupt, but I did not solve
> the sub page problem. So while it is functionally working it is not
> usable since it wastes so much memory. That's a tricky problem to
> solve since the algorithms depend on the gather->freelist.
> 
> I didn't spend any time trying to do anything about this as I was not
> intending to touch arm-smmu

Indeed between the irregular table sizes (before you even get to the 
Mediatek shenanigans...), and the awkward GFP_DMA limitations and/or 
reality that many of the systems using it really don't have memory to 
waste, I'd have considered v7s pretty much terminally incompatible with 
iommu_pages and the abstraction that iommupt is trying to be... :/

Thanks,
Robin.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-15 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-18  9:02 [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Add support for contiguous hint bit Vijayanand Jitta
2026-06-19 19:40 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-06-25  5:47   ` Vijayanand Jitta
2026-07-03 16:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-07 23:04   ` Daniel Mentz
2026-07-07 23:58     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-15  5:55   ` Vijayanand Jitta
2026-07-15 11:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-15 12:03       ` Will Deacon
2026-07-15 12:14         ` Robin Murphy
2026-07-15 12:50           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-15 17:45             ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2026-07-15 18:09               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-15 12:28         ` Jason Gunthorpe

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