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From: marc.zyngier@arm.com (Marc Zyngier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: KVM: iterate over all CPUs for CPU compatibility check
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:50:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d455f2823b9639af8d38d30f2c3234bd@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEDV+g+E8PLc60vMRhq4O_AL2WjmYDLb6=Wh34ynhevh7uAGJA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:57:36 -0700, Christoffer Dall
<cdall@cs.columbia.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
wrote:
>> On 12/04/13 14:04, Andre Przywara wrote:
>>> kvm_target_cpus() checks the compatibility of the used CPU with
>>> KVM, which is currently limited to ARM Cortex-A15 cores.
>>> However by calling it only once on any random CPU it assumes that
>>> all cores are the same, which is not true for big.LITTLE parts.
>>>
>>> After doing about 40 boots on a TC-2 core tile, I found it running
>>> in all but one case on one of the A7 cores (which correctly denied
>>> KVM initialization). On the 39th boot however the code ran on
>>> an A15, leading to a hang after returning success:
>>>
>>> ...
>>> TCP: reno registered
>>> UDP hash table entries: 512 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
>>> UDP-Lite hash table entries: 512 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
>>> NET: Registered protocol family 1
>>> kvm_target_cpu() on CPU #1, part is c0f0
>>>  ... (pause for a while) ...
>>> INFO: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPUINFO: rcu_sched detected
>>> stalls on CPU
>>> s/tasks: { 1} (detected by 0, t=6002 jiffies, g=4294966999,
>>> c=4294966998, q=15)
>>> Task dump for CPU 1:
>>> swapper/0       R running      0     1      0 0x00000002
>>>
>>> So iterate over every CPU to correctly determine the capability of
>>> the system to run the current KVM implementation.
>>> In case a big.LITTLE configuration is the reason for denial, give
>>> the user a hint how to get it running anyway (maxcpus= on the kernel
>>> command line).
>>>
>>> Please push this still into 3.9.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@linaro.org>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Nak. The fact that one of the CPUs seem to hang is a sure sign that
>> something is severely broken, and you definitely want to fix that
issue,
>> instead of blindly ignoring it.
>>
>> Additionally, it seems you're just papering over the issue. You should
>> be able to exclude the A7 processors, but not completely deny KVM from
>> running on the hardware.
>>
> Marc, I disagree with this nak. If the current kernel breaks boot on a
> Big.Little system, we need to take care of that first, and the
> proposed patch is a quick way to do so, and it does not stand in the
> way of introducing proper Big.Little support in any way, which I'm
> sure is going to open up a lot of other interesting questions.
> 
> I'm going to take this one.

That's your privilege.

Now, my objections about this patch still stand:
- It papers over what looks like a serious bug (CPU hanging? bah, let's
not bother with that). It is an A15 hanging here by the way, not an A7.
- It forces the user to choose between 5 CPUs and KVM (while simply
setting thread affinity would solve the problem this patch tries to solve).
- It reports potentially wrong information (setting maxcpus= will probably
do the wrong thing if cluster 0 is A7 based).

For these reasons, I'm still strongly opposed to this patch being merged.
Yes, this is a quick way to hide a (much) bigger problem, but in no way a
fix.

        M.
-- 
Fast, cheap, reliable. Pick two.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-15  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-12 13:04 [PATCH] ARM: KVM: iterate over all CPUs for CPU compatibility check Andre Przywara
2013-04-12 13:24 ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-12 13:40   ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-12 13:49     ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-17 10:19       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-04-17 10:35         ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-17 11:07           ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-17 11:30             ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-17 11:38               ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-17 11:42                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-17 11:45                   ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-17 12:24                 ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-17 12:25                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-17 12:28                     ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-17 12:38                       ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-17 13:00                         ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-17 19:28                           ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-17 11:38               ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-12 13:58   ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-12 14:14     ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-15  4:57   ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-15  7:50     ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2013-04-15  8:28       ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-15  8:43         ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-15  8:54           ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-15  9:14             ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-15  9:39               ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-15  9:45                 ` Peter Maydell
     [not found]                 ` <CAJRNFKJoBzgt4UhxsH65_LyhcGXPnzB_pg3q-zeYT2OVv59q4A@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-15 13:13                   ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-15 13:48                     ` Will Deacon
2013-04-15 14:26                       ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-15 14:39                         ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-15 14:53                         ` Alexander Spyridakis
2013-04-16 16:26                       ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-16 16:33                         ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-17  8:08                           ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-17  8:16                             ` Marc Zyngier
     [not found]                               ` <CAEDV+g+3nkdvbLdj0m-ZdDKt0JY2vgzhP2AQA2nf=R3h4yTQmQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-19 12:58                                 ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-19 16:13                                   ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-22 10:36                                     ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-22 11:02                                       ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-22 11:14                                         ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-22 14:35                                           ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-16 15:59                   ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-16 16:03                     ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-16 18:37                     ` Alexander Spyridakis
2013-04-16 18:43                       ` Alexander Spyridakis
2013-04-16 23:13                       ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-16  0:26     ` Geoff Levand
2013-04-16 16:24       ` Christoffer Dall
2013-04-16 16:40         ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-17  8:01         ` Andre Przywara
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-04-17 10:52 Andre Przywara

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