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From: skannan@codeaurora.org (skannan at codeaurora.org)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: udelay() broken for SMP cores?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:39:39 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea62885d30e4bbfb84db59758fa9e946.squirrel@www.codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100421072243.GA913@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:43:23PM -0700, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>>
>>>> I looked at arch/arm/lib/delay.S and it looks like __udelay and
>>>> __const_udelay won't work correctly for SMP cores. The code just uses
>>>> the loops_per_jiffy variable instead of the per-CPU loops per jiffy
>>>> data.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone already working on a fix for that? If not, I can fix it up
>>>> in
>>>> a way that's hopefully palatable to the community.
>>>
>>
>>> If you have case where individual CPUs are running at different speed
>>> and different
>>> Tick rate then only this can make difference.
>>
>> Yes. I was talking about the case where the CPUs could be running at
>> different speeds.
>
> We don't support that; if we did, we'd have to disable preempt for every
> call to mdelay/udelay to ensure that the thread is locked to a particular
> CPU.  I suspect that will (a) destroy RT scheduling preformance (b)
> increase preempt latency to an undesirable extent.
>

Is this an ARM specific decision? Cpufreq certainly supports per cpu scaling
and x86 udelay uses per-CPU data. So your concern should apply for x86
too. I had the same concern and was planning on bring it up in the cpufreq
mailing list after I made sure I didn't misunderstand anything.

Btw, your concern should apply for single core scaling too, right? Context
switch can complete within max udelay (general - 5ms, ARM - 2ms) time and
CPU could have jumped
from lowest to highest speed in that time and mess up udelay. I didn't see
any code in cpufreq that deferred scaling during udelay. So, that's something
I plan to ask cpufreq folks too.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Saravana
P.S: Sent from phone. Pls excuse formatting issues.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-21  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-21  2:19 udelay() broken for SMP cores? Saravana Kannan
2010-04-21  4:56 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-04-21  6:43   ` Saravana Kannan
2010-04-21  7:22     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21  9:39       ` skannan at codeaurora.org [this message]
2010-04-21  9:50         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21  9:58           ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2010-04-21 10:00           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 19:29             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 19:52               ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:21                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 20:47                   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-21 20:57                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-22  0:14                       ` Jamie Lokier
2011-01-08 23:24                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 10:31           ` skannan at codeaurora.org
2010-04-21 19:33             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-04-21 23:47               ` Saravana Kannan
2010-04-23  9:00           ` Pavel Machek

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