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From: Holger Dengler <dengler@linux.ibm.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/36] lib/crypto: s390/aes: Migrate optimized code into library
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 13:12:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f31a9a3f-ec9a-44e1-85ae-c0e0391ff0fc@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260107203458.GA2200@quark>

On 07/01/2026 21:34, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2026 at 08:41:02AM +0100, Holger Dengler wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> first of all: happy New Year! ANd thanks for the series.
>>
>> On 05/01/2026 06:12, Eric Biggers wrote:
>>> Implement aes_preparekey_arch(), aes_encrypt_arch(), and 
>>> aes_decrypt_arch() using the CPACF AES instructions.
>>
>> I'm not sure, it it makes sense to implement this on s390 at all. The CPACF
>> instructions cover full modes of operations and are  to process more
>> than one cipher-block-size (*). For single-block operations, the performance
>> might be worth than using the generic functions. I will look into it and do
>> some performance tests. If there is a possibility to plug-in to the level
>> where the modes of operation are implemented, it would make much more sense
>> for s390.
>>
>> (*) Yes, it's a bit uncommon, but the CPACF instructions on s390 can process
>> multiple block with a single instruction call! They are so called long running
>> instructions.
> 
> I'm happy to drop the CPACF single-block AES code if it's not
> worthwhile.  I included it only because arch/s390/crypto/ already has
> such code.  Since I'm making it so that the crypto_cipher API simply
> wraps the library API, if this code is not brought into the library it
> will effectively be dropped.  You had pushed back the last time I
> proposed dropping one of the s390 optimizations, even a fairly minor one
> (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/51fc91b6-3a6e-44f7-ae93-aef0bcb48964@linux.ibm.com/).
> 
> But I have no way to test or benchmark the s390 code myself.  If the
> CPACF single-block AES en/decryption code isn't worthwhile, there's no
> reason to keep it, so I'll remove it.

My assumtion, that the aes single-block-operation operation is slower in CPACF
than in software, seems to be wrong. I did some measurements on different
machines and it turns out, that it is up to ~2x faster doing it in CPACF.

So, sorry for the noise. Please leave your s390 implementation as it is.

PS: I have a simple kunit test for aes (KAT and benchmark for each direction
and key-size). I'll send it in a separate reply. Feel free to pick it.

> As for AES modes, later patchsets are going to introduce
> architecture-optimized AES modes into the library, and the traditional
> crypto API for those modes will similarly be reimplemented on top of it.
> This patchset just focuses on the existing library API for key expansion
> and single block en/decryption as a first step.  (As with the
> traditional API, single block en/decryption is needed as a fallback to
> handle any modes that don't have a standalone implementation.)

Ok. So we'll wait for upcoming patchsets.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards
Holger Dengler
--
IBM Systems, Linux on IBM Z Development
dengler@linux.ibm.com



  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-14 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-05  5:12 [PATCH 00/36] AES library improvements Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 01/36] crypto: powerpc/aes - Rename struct aes_key Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 02/36] lib/crypto: aes: Introduce improved AES library Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  7:47   ` Qingfang Deng
2026-01-06  6:36     ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 03/36] crypto: arm/aes-neonbs - Use AES library for single blocks Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 04/36] crypto: arm/aes - Switch to aes_enc_tab[] and aes_dec_tab[] Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 05/36] crypto: arm64/aes " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 06/36] crypto: arm64/aes - Select CRYPTO_LIB_SHA256 from correct places Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 07/36] crypto: aegis - Switch from crypto_ft_tab[] to aes_enc_tab[] Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 08/36] crypto: aes - Remove aes-fixed-time / CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_TI Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 09/36] crypto: aes - Replace aes-generic with wrapper around lib Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 10/36] lib/crypto: arm/aes: Migrate optimized code into library Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 11/36] lib/crypto: arm64/aes: " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 12/36] lib/crypto: powerpc/aes: Migrate SPE " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 13/36] lib/crypto: powerpc/aes: Migrate POWER8 " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 14/36] lib/crypto: riscv/aes: Migrate " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 15/36] lib/crypto: s390/aes: " Eric Biggers
2026-01-07  7:41   ` Holger Dengler
2026-01-07 20:34     ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-14 12:12       ` Holger Dengler [this message]
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 16/36] lib/crypto: sparc/aes: " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 17/36] lib/crypto: x86/aes: Add AES-NI optimization Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 18/36] crypto: x86/aes - Remove the superseded AES-NI crypto_cipher Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 19/36] Bluetooth: SMP: Use new AES library API Eric Biggers
2026-01-05 15:40   ` Andrew Cooper
2026-01-05 19:05     ` David Laight
2026-01-06  6:58       ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 20/36] chelsio: " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 21/36] net: phy: mscc: macsec: " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 22/36] staging: rtl8723bs: core: " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 23/36] crypto: arm/ghash - " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 24/36] crypto: arm64/ghash " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 25/36] crypto: x86/aes-gcm " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:12 ` [PATCH 26/36] crypto: ccp " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:13 ` [PATCH 27/36] crypto: chelsio " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:13 ` [PATCH 28/36] crypto: crypto4xx " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:13 ` [PATCH 29/36] crypto: drbg " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:13 ` [PATCH 30/36] crypto: inside-secure " Eric Biggers
2026-01-07  3:48   ` Qingfang Deng
2026-01-07  4:01     ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:13 ` [PATCH 31/36] crypto: omap " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:13 ` [PATCH 32/36] lib/crypto: aescfb: " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:13 ` [PATCH 33/36] lib/crypto: aesgcm: " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:13 ` [PATCH 34/36] lib/crypto: aes: Remove old AES en/decryption functions Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:13 ` [PATCH 35/36] lib/crypto: aes: Drop "_new" suffix from " Eric Biggers
2026-01-05  5:13 ` [PATCH 36/36] lib/crypto: aes: Drop 'volatile' from aes_sbox and aes_inv_sbox Eric Biggers
2026-01-08 11:32 ` [PATCH 00/36] AES library improvements Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-08 20:26   ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-09  1:27     ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-09  9:08       ` Ard Biesheuvel

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