From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] dma: swiotlb: Size shared default pools for memory encryption
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2026 16:38:03 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq5ajypvioks.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <anxEc8EHmJQywVI5@arm.com>
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> writes:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 07:10:56PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm) wrote:
>> Systems with memory encryption use swiotlb to provide shared or
>> unencrypted buffers for device DMA. Confidential guests may route all
>> DMA through these buffers, while SME hosts use them for devices that
>> cannot address encrypted memory. The default swiotlb pool can therefore
>> be exhausted under I/O-intensive workloads.
>>
>> Let architectures mark the default swiotlb pool as shared before
>> swiotlb_init().
>
> I thought we wanted even this decision to be moved out of the arch code.
>
Architectures may want to use an unencrypted swiotlb pool for different
reasons, one of them being CC_ATTR_GUEST_MEM_ENCRYPT. x86 hosts also
require unencrypted pool to support SME. We can cover both cases using
CC_ATTR_MEM_ENCRYPT. However, pKVM does not want an unencrypted SWIOTLB
pool. So I was thinking it would be much cleaner to let the architecture
code drive that decision.
>
>> Move the existing x86 sizing policy into generic swiotlb
>> code and add early pool marking for arm64 Realm guests, powerpc secure
>> guests, s390 protected-virtualization guests, and x86 memory-encryption
>> platforms. Use CC_ATTR_MEM_ENCRYPT on x86 to include host SME, whose
>> swiotlb pool must also be decrypted for devices that cannot address
>> encrypted memory.
>
> That's a functional change for x86. For now, I'd keep it to
> CC_ATTR_GUEST_MEM_ENCRYPT.
>
> BTW, why does arm64 report CC_ATTR_MEM_ENCRYPT instead of the GUEST
> option in realms?
>
>> Move the powerpc secure-guest swiotlb enablement before initialization
>> so that the shared pool is allocated with the required flags. pKVM
>> guests continue to use a restricted DMA pool instead of the default
>> swiotlb pool.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm) <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
>> ---
>> arch/arm64/mm/init.c | 6 ++-
>> arch/powerpc/mm/mem.c | 7 +++
>> arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/svm.c | 10 ----
>> arch/s390/mm/init.c | 2 +
>> arch/x86/mm/mem_encrypt.c | 27 ++--------
>> include/linux/swiotlb.h | 7 ++-
>> kernel/dma/swiotlb.c | 73 ++++++++++++++++++++++------
>> 7 files changed, 82 insertions(+), 50 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/init.c b/arch/arm64/mm/init.c
>> index e308a7cabd12..4c022e8aed43 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/init.c
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/init.c
>> @@ -338,8 +338,12 @@ void __init arch_setup_zero_pages(void)
>> void __init arch_mm_preinit(void)
>> {
>> unsigned int flags = SWIOTLB_VERBOSE;
>> + /* pKVM uses restricted-dma-pool */
>> + bool cc_guest = is_realm_world();
>>
>> - if (max_pfn <= PFN_DOWN(arm64_dma_phys_limit)) {
>> + if (cc_guest) {
>> + swiotlb_mark_default_cc_shared();
>> + } else if (max_pfn <= PFN_DOWN(arm64_dma_phys_limit)) {
>> /*
>> * If no bouncing needed for ZONE_DMA, reduce the swiotlb
>> * buffer for kmalloc() bouncing to 1MB per 1GB of RAM.
>
> With your other reworking, doesn't the core code know the swiotlb will
> be shared? Can it not make the decision to resize at that point based
> solely on CC_ATTR_GUEST_MEM_ENCRYPT?
>
> I also wonder whether we could address Will's pKVM request not to
> allocate a bounce buffer once pKVM guests will start reporting
> CC_ATTR_GUEST_MEM_ENCRYPT. Some simple heuristic: if a
> restricted-dma-pool is advertised in DT (it will end up in
> rmem_swiotlb_setup()), skip resizing the default swiotlb. It's not
> perfect but the bounce buffer can be overridden on the command line.
>
For the same reason I mentioned above, architectures may have different
reasons for setting cc_shared = true. IMHO, it is cleaner to let the
architecture code make that decision before swiotlb_init().
-aneesh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-12 11:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-11 13:40 [RFC PATCH] dma: swiotlb: Size shared default pools for memory encryption Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-12 10:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2026-08-12 11:08 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2026-08-12 11:31 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
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