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From: Dmitry Osipenko <dmitry.osipenko@collabora.com>
To: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] drm: Fix reservation locking for pin/unpin and console
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 19:44:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07e10e3f-9e48-4b0d-b320-fffdece23a2c@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd01e963-dd4d-4554-9feb-1750f72cc260@suse.de>

On 2/28/24 11:19, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Am 27.02.24 um 19:14 schrieb Dmitry Osipenko:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Thank you for the patches!
>>
>> On 2/27/24 13:14, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
>>> Dma-buf locking semantics require the caller of pin and unpin to hold
>>> the buffer's reservation lock. Fix DRM to adhere to the specs. This
>>> enables to fix the locking in DRM's console emulation. Similar changes
>>> for vmap and mmap have been posted at [1][2]
>>>
>>> Most DRM drivers and memory managers acquire the buffer object's
>>> reservation lock within their GEM pin and unpin callbacks. This
>>> violates dma-buf locking semantics. We get away with it because PRIME
>>> does not provide pin/unpin, but attach/detach, for which the locking
>>> semantics is correct.
>>>
>>> Patches 1 to 8 rework DRM GEM code in various implementations to
>>> acquire the reservation lock when entering the pin and unpin callbacks.
>>> This prepares them for the next patch. Drivers that are not affected
>>> by these patches either don't acquire the reservation lock (amdgpu)
>>> or don't need preparation (loongson).
>>>
>>> Patch 9 moves reservation locking from the GEM pin/unpin callbacks
>>> into drm_gem_pin() and drm_gem_unpin(). As PRIME uses these functions
>>> internally it still gets the reservation lock.
>>>
>>> With the updated GEM callbacks, the rest of the patchset fixes the
>>> fbdev emulation's buffer locking. Fbdev emulation needs to keep its
>>> GEM buffer object inplace while updating its content. This required
>>> a implicit pinning and apparently amdgpu didn't do this at all.
>>>
>>> Patch 10 introduces drm_client_buffer_vmap_local() and _vunmap_local().
>>> The former function map a GEM buffer into the kernel's address space
>>> with regular vmap operations, but keeps holding the reservation lock.
>>> The _vunmap_local() helper undoes the vmap and releases the lock. The
>>> updated GEM callbacks make this possible. Between the two calls, the
>>> fbdev emulation can update the buffer content without have the buffer
>>> moved or evicted. Update fbdev-generic to use vmap_local helpers,
>>> which fix amdgpu. The idea of adding a "local vmap" has previously been
>>> attempted at [3] in a different form.
>>>
>>> Patch 11 adds implicit pinning to the DRM client's regular vmap
>>> helper so that long-term vmap'ed buffers won't be evicted. This only
>>> affects fbdev-dma, but GEM DMA helpers don't require pinning. So
>>> there are no practical changes.
>>>
>>> Patches 12 and 13 remove implicit pinning from the vmap and vunmap
>>> operations in gem-vram and qxl. These pin operations are not supposed
>>> to be part of vmap code, but were required to keep the buffers in place
>>> for fbdev emulation. With the conversion o ffbdev-generic to to
>>> vmap_local helpers, that code can finally be removed.
>> Isn't it a common behaviour for all DRM drivers to implicitly pin BO
>> while it's vmapped? I was sure it should be common /o\
> 
> That's what I originally thought as well, but the intention is for pin
> and vmap to be distinct operation. So far each driver has been
> different, as you probably know best from your vmap refactoring. :)
> 
>>
>> Why would you want to kmap BO that isn't pinned?
> 
> Pinning places the buffer object for the GPU. As a side effect, the
> buffer is then kept in place, which enables vmap. So pinning only makes
> sense for buffer objects that never move (shmem, dma). That's what patch
> 11 is for.
> 
>>
>> Shouldn't TTM's vmap() be changed to do the pinning?
> 
> I don't think so. One problem is that pinning needs a memory area (vram,
> GTT, system ram, etc) specified, which vmap simply doesn't know about.
> That has been a problem for fbdev emulation at some point. Our fbdev
> code tried to pin as part of vmap, but chose the wrong area and suddenly
> the GPU could not see the buffer object any longer.  So the next best
> thing for vmap was to pin the buffer object where ever it is currently
> located. That is what gem-vram and qxl did so far. And of course, the
> fbdev code needs to unpin and vunmap the buffer object quickly, so that
> it can be relocated if the GPU needs it.  Hence, the vmap_local
> interface removes such short-term pinning in favor of holding the
> reservation lock.
> 
>>
>> I missed that TTM doesn't pin BO on vmap() and now surprised to see it.
>> It should be a rather serious problem requiring backporting of the
>> fixes, but I don't see the fixes tags on the patches (?)
> 
> No chance TBH. The old code has worked for years and backporting all
> this would require your vmap patches at a minimum.
> 
> Except maybe for amdgpu. It uses fbdev-generic, which requires pinning,
> but amdgpu doesn't pin. That looks fishy, but I'm not aware of any bug
> reports either. I guess, a quick workaround could fix older amdgpu if
> necessary.

Thanks! I'll make another pass on the patches on Monday

-- 
Best regards,
Dmitry


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-01 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-27 10:14 [PATCH 00/13] drm: Fix reservation locking for pin/unpin and console Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 01/13] drm/gem-shmem: Acquire reservation lock in GEM pin/unpin callbacks Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 02/13] drm/gem-vram: " Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 03/13] drm/msm: Provide msm_gem_get_pages_locked() Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 04/13] drm/msm: Acquire reservation lock in GEM pin/unpin callback Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 05/13] drm/nouveau: Provide nouveau_bo_{pin,unpin}_locked() Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 06/13] drm/nouveau: Acquire reservation lock in GEM pin/unpin callbacks Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 07/13] drm/qxl: Provide qxl_bo_{pin,unpin}_locked() Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 08/13] drm/qxl: Acquire reservation lock in GEM pin/unpin callbacks Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-28  3:47   ` Zack Rusin
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 09/13] drm/gem: Acquire reservation lock in drm_gem_{pin/unpin}() Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-28  3:52   ` Zack Rusin
2024-03-11 21:51   ` [09/13] " Sui Jingfeng
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 10/13] drm/fbdev-generic: Fix locking with drm_client_buffer_vmap_local() Thomas Zimmermann
2024-03-11 22:36   ` [10/13] " Sui Jingfeng
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 11/13] drm/client: Pin vmap'ed GEM buffers Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 12/13] drm/gem-vram: Do not pin buffer objects for vmap Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 10:15 ` [PATCH 13/13] drm/qxl: " Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 14:03 ` [PATCH 00/13] drm: Fix reservation locking for pin/unpin and console Christian König
2024-02-27 15:42   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-27 18:14 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-02-27 18:33   ` Christian König
2024-02-28  8:19   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2024-03-01 16:44     ` Dmitry Osipenko [this message]
2024-02-28  3:54 ` Zack Rusin
2024-03-05 21:58 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-03-06 14:44   ` Thomas Zimmermann

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