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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Krishna Kurapati <krishna.kurapati@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Xiangxu Yin <xiangxu.yin@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Johan Hovold <johan+linaro@kernel.org>,
	Loic Poulain <loic.poulain@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Kathiravan Thirumoorthy
	<kathiravan.thirumoorthy@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-phy@lists.infradead.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] dt-bindings: phy: qcom,msm8998-qmp-usb3-phy: Add support for Shikra
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 17:39:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <159d813e-1f2d-420a-bfa7-48ac8f533db5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <34586ed6-4f78-490f-a916-baf7657cca7a@oss.qualcomm.com>

On 15/05/2026 17:36, Krishna Kurapati wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/14/2026 8:07 PM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 14/05/2026 08:22, Krishna Kurapati wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/14/2026 12:26 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> On 07/05/2026 13:37, Krishna Kurapati wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/5/2026 7:30 PM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/05/2026 15:57, Krishna Kurapati wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/5/2026 6:59 PM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 05/05/2026 15:27, Krishna Kurapati wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2026 4:22 PM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 05/05/2026 12:49, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 04, 2026 at 10:36:57PM +0530, Krishna Kurapati wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Declare the USB-C QMP PHY present on the Qualcomm Shikra platform.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Krishna Kurapati <krishna.kurapati@oss.qualcomm.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>       .../devicetree/bindings/phy/qcom,msm8998-qmp-usb3-phy.yaml      | 2 ++
>>>>>>>>>>>>       1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@oss.qualcomm.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ... and then I looked at the driver. So un-reviewed. Devices are clearly
>>>>>>>>>> compatible. If not, explain what is not compatible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Talos uses GCC_USB3_PRIM_PHY_AUX_CLK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In Shikra, we are using GCC_USB3_PRIM_PHY_COM_AUX_CLK. We don't have
>>>>>>>>> GCC_USB3_PRIM_PHY_AUX_CLK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hence, I didn't use a fallback compatible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This still explains nothing. How different clock makes interface for SW
>>>>>>>> incompatible exactly?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I went by the naming. AUX vs COM_AUX.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The naming does not matter. If the clock is called
>>>>>> "no_one_expects_spanish_inquisition", does that make software
>>>>>> incompatible? Why would the name itself matter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I use a fallback compatible and in DT vote for "COM_AUX" clock with
>>>>>>> clock-names mentioning "aux" ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know, I asked what is different in software interface.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>>>>
>>>>>     I checked with the hw team here and found out two things.
>>>>>
>>>>>     1. Shikra is a spinoff of Agatti and its sw interface (clocks used and
>>>>> regulators used) is the same as agatti.
>>>>>
>>>>>     2. I thought we could use qcm2290 as a fallback since the phy register
>>>>> init sequence is the same for Talos/Shikra/Agatti. The difference
>>>>> between Talos and agatti when checked in the driver was the init load
>>>>> settings. I checked with the hw team and they suggested using the init
>>>>> load settings which talos was using.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hence both these compatibles (qcm2290 and qcs615) cannot be used as
>>>>> fallback for Shikra.
>>>>
>>>> Then I do not understand why you are using qcs615_usb3phy_cfg for
>>>> Shikra. You say that the initialization is different, but you use
>>>> exactly the same initialization. So in a meaning of compatibility
>>>> between hardware for Devicetree they are compatible.
>>>>
>>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>>
>>>    There are 3 things:
>>>
>>> 1. Clocks used:
>>> -> Talos supports AUX Clock since it supports DP over USB.
>>> -> Agatti and Shikra use COM_AUX clock since they dont support DP over USB.
>>>
>>> 2. Phy register Init sequence - same for all 3 targets
>>>
>>> 3. Regulator init load:
>>> -> Different for both Talos and Agatti
>>> -> Recommendation is to use Talos regulator load values.
>>>
>>> SW interface wise, shikra is comaptible with agatti. If we use agatti as
>>> fallback, we would end up using the platform data of Agatti where the
>>> regulator init load is not suitable for Shikra. Hence not using Agatti
>>> as fallback.
>>>
>>> Coming to driver changes, I used qcs615_cfg because it has required phy
>>> register sequence and regulator init load as needed by shikra.
>>
>> So is it compatible with QCS615? If not, then something is incomplete or
>> confusing. The driver uses the same software interface.
>>
> Sorry for the confusion. The Talos compatible represents the USB/DP PHY 
> with aux clock input, while Shikra is a USB-only PHY with com_aux input 
> clock, so the two PHYs are not compatible with each other.
> 
> In the Linux driver implementation the match data is currently used only 
> to affect the init sequence and regulator init load and here Shikra can 
> reuse the Talos match data structure.
> 

I wrote three times already, not writing anymore. You still did not
answer the problem here.

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-15 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-04 17:06 [PATCH v2 0/4] Add USB Phy driver and binding changes for Qualcomm Shikra SoC Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-04 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: phy: qcom,qusb2: Document QUSB2 Phy for Shikra Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-05 10:48   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-04 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] dt-bindings: phy: qcom,msm8998-qmp-usb3-phy: Add support " Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-05 10:49   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-05 10:52     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-05 13:27       ` Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-05 13:29         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-05 13:57           ` Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-05 14:00             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-07 11:37               ` Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-13 18:56                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-14  6:22                   ` Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-14 14:37                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-15 15:36                       ` Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-15 15:39                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-05-04 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] phy: qcom-qusb2: " Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-04 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] phy: qcom: qmp-usbc: Add qmp configuration " Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-04 19:28   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-05-05  4:06     ` Krishna Kurapati
2026-05-05 10:50       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-10  9:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Add USB Phy driver and binding changes for Qualcomm Shikra SoC Vinod Koul
2026-05-11  9:06   ` Krishna Kurapati

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