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From: "Roedel, Joerg" <Joerg.Roedel@amd.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	"stepanm@codeaurora.org" <stepanm@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dwalker@codeaurora.org" <dwalker@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm: msm: Add System MMU support.
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:40:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100729084018.GM26098@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201007291026.55928.arnd@arndb.de>

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 04:26:55AM -0400, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thursday 29 July 2010 05:35:48 FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > > 
> > > From what I have been able to tell, the IOMMU interface was written by
> > > AMD/Intel to allow the kvm code to work with a common IOMMU interface. To
> > 
> > Don't confuse the IOMMU interface with the DMA API that Arnd
> > mentioned.
> > 
> > They are not related at all.

Thats not 100% true. They are not strictly related, but they are related
as they may use the same backend kernel drivers to provide their
functionality. Both APIs exist for different purposes, of course.

> Exactly, thanks for the clarification. I also didn't realize that there
> is now an include/linux/iommu.h file that only describes the PCI SR-IOV
> interfaces, unlike the generic IOMMU support that we have in your
> include/linux/dma-mapping.h file.

The IOMMU-API is not about SR-IOV. It is about the capabilities of
modern IOMMU hardware that we can not provide to the kernel with the
DMA-API such as the ability to choose ourself at which io-virtual
address a given cpu physical address should be mapped.
Also I wouldn't call the DMA-API an IOMMU interface. The API does not
depend on an IOMMU which is an important difference to the IOMMU-API.
The IOMMU-API is probably not generic enough to handle all kinds of
IOMMUs but its closer to a generic IOMMU-API than the DMA-API.

		Joerg

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-29  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1280270466-13503-1-git-send-email-stepanm@codeaurora.org>
2010-07-27 22:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm: msm: Add System MMU support Daniel Walker
2010-07-28  8:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-28 17:39   ` stepanm
2010-07-28 17:50     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-28 21:21       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-29  4:15         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-29  8:12         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-29 11:47           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-30  6:14             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-29  0:58       ` stepanm
2010-07-29  3:35         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-29  8:26           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-29  8:35             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-29  8:40             ` Roedel, Joerg [this message]
2010-07-29  8:46               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-29  9:06                 ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-29  9:14                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-29  9:25                     ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-29  9:28                     ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-29  9:44                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-29 10:01                         ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-29 11:25                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-29 12:12                             ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-29 13:01                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-30  5:19                   ` stepanm
2010-07-30  8:01                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-30 16:25                       ` stepanm
2010-07-30 21:59                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-30 22:58                           ` stepanm
2010-07-31  9:37                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-02  7:58                     ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-08-02 20:29                       ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-08-03  9:23                         ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-08-03 18:43                           ` Stepan Moskovchenko
2010-08-04  9:52                             ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-31  3:15             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-02  7:48               ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-08-02  8:03                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-02  8:10                   ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-08-02  8:30                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-02  9:03                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-02  9:20                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-02 10:04                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-02 15:26                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-02  9:45                     ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-08-02  8:35                   ` Roedel, Joerg
2010-07-31  2:30           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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