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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelf@ti.com>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Peter Crosthwaite <peter.crosthwaite@xilinx.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: Change of TEXT_OFFSET for multi_v7_defconfig
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 09:41:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140418084141.GB24070@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqKCGg25wrTq8SyXK3zebo+uJG61083K6--mJ9Fxek03XQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 09:53:23PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > No.  You simply can't eliminate any of the above - each one has been
> > negotiated through quite an amount of discussion with relevant parties
> > and/or due to technical requirements and they just can't be magic'd
> > away.
> >
> > Plus the ARM64 image format is different from our zImage format.  It
> > would make far *more* sense to align our Image format with our zImage
> > format so existing boot loaders which look for the zImage magic numbers
> > can boot plain Image files too.
> >
> > Moreover, since we could *never* align zImage with the ARM64 format,
> > why on earth would we want to start using the ARM64 format for the
> > Image format?
> 
> I'm not talking about zImage. I'm talking about Image files only. The
> arm64 Image header could be added to ARM Image files and that would
> not hurt or change a thing for existing users. The cost is 64 bytes.

No it isn't.  The cost is 64-bytes *and* user confusion with two
completely different "headers" for no reason what so ever.

Why use the ARM64 version and then have it *block* existing boot
loaders which look for the zImage magic from being able to boot an
Image.

It's a much saner idea to use the ARM32 zImage header than to use the
ARM64 version - or nothing at all.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-18  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-15 10:44 Change of TEXT_OFFSET for multi_v7_defconfig Daniel Thompson
2014-04-15 17:53 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-04-16 16:18 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-16 19:14   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-16 21:08     ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-16 21:36       ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-16 22:34         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-16 22:33       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-16 23:21       ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 18:33         ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-17 19:48           ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 20:49             ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-17 20:54               ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-17 20:35           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22  9:44             ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 17:05               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:55                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-22 18:36                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 14:50             ` Michal Simek
2014-04-22 17:00               ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:11               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 17:53                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 18:12                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:32                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 18:38                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:45                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-17 17:11     ` Rob Herring
2014-04-17 20:06       ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 20:16         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-17 21:18           ` Rob Herring
2014-04-17 21:35             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-18  2:53               ` Rob Herring
2014-04-18  4:34                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-22 10:26                   ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 10:40                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 11:41                       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-18  8:41                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2014-04-22  9:53               ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 10:07                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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