From: Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: "Kevin Hilman" <khilman@linaro.org>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
"Krzysztof Kozłowski" <k.kozlowski@samsung.com>,
msivasub@codeaurora.org, "Andy Gross" <agross@codeaurora.org>,
"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
"Axel Haslam" <ahaslam@baylibre.com>,
"Marc Titinger" <mtitinger@baylibre.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 08/27] PM / Domains: Support IRQ safe PM domains
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:00:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160118170048.GE1651@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160118165818.GD1651@linaro.org>
On Mon, Jan 18 2016 at 09:58 -0700, Lina Iyer wrote:
>On Fri, Jan 15 2016 at 15:08 -0700, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>[...]
>>
>>>>I think case 2 and case 3 should be okay to support, but I am really
>>>>questioning case 1.
>>>>
>>>With you other patch, it does make sense to have 2 and 3 instead of 1
>>>and 2.
>>
>>Okay!
>>
>>>My only concern is as I view the SoC as a whole, there would be cases
>>>where the parent domain could only be non-IRQ safe (turning off a big
>>>regulator may require some sleep) and the subdomains are quicker and
>>>faster IRQ-safe domains. Putting up this restriction, chops up the
>>
>>Just because they are "quick" (don't sleep) doesn't mean they have to
>>set the IRQ safe flag for the domain.
>>
>>Let's compare how pm_runtime_irq_safe() is used for devices in
>>drivers. Lots of corresponding runtime PM callbacks don't sleep, but
>>that don't mean that the driver calls pm_runtime_irq_safe().
>>
>>Drivers that are expecting to invoke pm_runtime_get_sync() (or other
>>synchronous runtime PM API) from atomic context, requires the
>>corresponding runtime PM callbacks to be IRQ safe. Only under these
>>circumstances the pm_runtime_irq_safe() is used.
>>
>I agree.
>
>The limitation and the interpretation could completely be s/w. There is
>nothing preventing that in hardware. So we could have a processor
>subsystem domain that can collapse faster and even during cpuidle. We
>would define that domain IRQ-safe because of its need to collapse and
>resume when IRQs are disabled, but its parent may not have that
>restriction, in fact, the parent could have another child that could
>only operate as non-IRQ safe.
>
>By imposing the limitation that parents of IRQ-safe domains cannot be
>non-IRQ-safe, we have to chop off that relationship, because of
>another
>non-IRQ-safe sibling.
>
>>>domain hierarchy. Imagine, if you could represent the whole power domain
>>>organization in DT, but because of this restriction, we may not be able
>>>to do that.
>>
>>You do have a point. Considering my comment above, do you still think
>>this may become an issue?
>>
>Yes. Pls see my example below.
>
Sorry above ;)
>That said, I probably won't encounter this limitation in my current
>series, but its not hard to foresee this corner case.
>
>Thanks,
>Lina
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-18 17:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-17 22:37 [PATCH RFC 00/27] PM/Domains: Cluster idle support for ARM SoCs Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 01/27] PM / Domains: core changes for multiple states Lina Iyer
2015-12-09 13:58 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-12-17 17:58 ` Axel Haslam
2015-12-17 21:19 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 02/27] PM / Domains: Allow domain power states to be read from DT Lina Iyer
2015-12-10 16:53 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-12-15 10:07 ` Marc Titinger
2015-12-15 22:14 ` Lina Iyer
2015-12-16 21:36 ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 03/27] PM / Domain: Add additional state specific param Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 21:33 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 04/27] PM / Domains: make governor select deepest state Lina Iyer
2015-12-11 9:13 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 05/27] PM / Domains: remove old power on/off latencies Lina Iyer
2015-11-18 14:57 ` [PATCH] ARM: imx6: pm: declare pm domain latency on power_state struct Lina Iyer
2015-11-23 13:31 ` Lucas Stach
2015-11-23 13:42 ` Lucas Stach
2015-12-04 23:19 ` Lina Iyer
2015-12-11 9:16 ` [PATCH RFC 05/27] PM / Domains: remove old power on/off latencies Ulf Hansson
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 06/27] PM / Domains: add debugfs 'states' and 'timings' seq files Lina Iyer
2015-12-11 11:46 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-12-16 11:07 ` Marc Titinger
2015-12-16 12:48 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-12-16 14:12 ` Marc Titinger
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 07/27] PM / Domains: Read domain residency from DT Lina Iyer
2015-11-24 20:41 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-12-11 11:54 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 08/27] PM / Domains: Support IRQ safe PM domains Lina Iyer
2016-01-14 14:42 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-14 18:33 ` Lina Iyer
2016-01-15 8:55 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-15 16:57 ` Lina Iyer
2016-01-15 22:08 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-18 16:58 ` Lina Iyer
2016-01-18 17:00 ` Lina Iyer [this message]
2016-01-19 10:01 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 09/27] PM / Domains: Attempt runtime suspend of IRQ safe parent domain Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 10/27] drivers: power: Introduce PM domains for CPUs/clusters Lina Iyer
2015-11-24 20:52 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 11/27] drivers: cpu: Define CPU devices as IRQ safe Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 12/27] ARM: cpuidle: remove cpu parameter from the cpuidle_ops suspend hook Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 13/27] ARM: cpuidle: Add runtime PM support for CPU idle Lina Iyer
2015-11-18 8:50 ` Zhaoyang Huang
2015-11-18 14:17 ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 22:10 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 14/27] tick: get next wakeup event for the CPU Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 15/27] PM / Domains: Add next_wakeup to device's timing data Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 22:19 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-20 15:58 ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 16/27] ARM: cpuidle: Record the next wakeup event of the CPU Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 23:35 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-20 16:28 ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-24 18:29 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 17/27] drivers: cpu-pd: Record CPUs that are part of the domain Lina Iyer
2015-11-24 21:00 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 14:13 ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-25 19:12 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 20:20 ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 18/27] drivers: cpu-pd: Add PM Domain governor for CPUs Lina Iyer
2015-11-18 18:42 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-11-19 8:50 ` Marc Titinger
2015-11-20 17:39 ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 23:52 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-20 16:21 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-11-20 16:42 ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-20 0:03 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 19/27] drivers: cpu-pd: Invoke CPU PM runtime on hotplug Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 20/27] Documentation: ARM: topology: 'cluster' property for cluster nodes Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 21/27] drivers: cpu-pd: Parse topology to setup CPU PM domains Lina Iyer
2015-12-07 14:54 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-12-08 18:05 ` Lina Iyer
2015-12-10 18:11 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-12-11 9:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-12-11 20:51 ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 22/27] drivers: firmware: PSCI: Export psci_has_ext_power_state() Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 23/27] ARM64: psci: Support cluster idle states for OS-Initated Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 24/27] arm64: dts: Add Qualcomm MSM8916, MTP8916, APQ8016, SBC8016 ids Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 25/27] devicetree: bindings: Document qcom,msm-id and qcom,board-id Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 14:36 ` Rob Herring
2015-11-19 15:36 ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 26/27] ARM64: dts: Add PSCI cpuidle support for MSM8916 Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 27/27] ARM64: dts: Define CPU power domain " Lina Iyer
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