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From: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>
To: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>
Cc: linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, timur@codeaurora.org,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Sinan Kaya <okaya@codeaurora.org>,
	Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
	dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dmaengine: qcom_hidma: release the descriptor before the callback
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 22:53:10 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160810172310.GG9681@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2fce2512-853e-c8e6-05d5-4c9088ef7d83@metafoo.de>

On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 02:25:28PM +0200, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
> On 08/08/2016 11:08 AM, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 05:59:30PM +0200, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
> >> On 08/04/2016 05:38 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>> What you instead need to do is to find some way to record in your
> >>> driver that transaction 2 failed, and when dma_cookie_status() says
> >>> that a transaction has DMA_COMPLETE status, you need to look up to
> >>> see whether it failed.
> >>
> >> In my opinion this is where the current API is broken by design. For each
> >> transfer that fails you need to store the cookie associated with that
> >> transfer in some kind of lookup table. Since there is no lifetime associated
> >> with a cookie entries in this table would need to be retained forever and it
> >> will grow unbound.
> > 
> > And how many drivers can report errors? And how many drivers can guarantee
> > DMA_COMPLETE implies transaction was succesful.
> 
> The former just a handful, the later hopefully all.
> 
> > 
> >> Ideally we'd mark error reporting through this interface as deprecated and
> >> discourage new users of the interface. As far as I can see most of the few
> >> drivers that do return DMA_ERROR get it wrong anyway, e.g. return it
> >> unconditionally for all cookies when an error occurred for any of them.
> > 
> > Error reporting is quite tricky as detection is a problem. So yes if you
> > can do so, it is highly encouraged to report using new interface which is
> > better than client checking after callback.
> > 
> > Btw what is the behaviour after error? I would think that client will see an
> > error and report to upper layer while initiaite closure of transaction. So
> > does driver need to keep the state for a longer time :-)
> 
> The problem is that this is not really clearly defined.
> 
> 1) What should be done when multiple descriptors are queued and an error is
> encountered on one of them. Should the descriptors that are after the one in
> the queue that caused the error be discarded or should they be executed as
> normal?

That is client's call.

But a reasonable way would be for client to propagate those errors up, so it
can terminate.

> 2) How long does a error result need to be retained. Can it be discarded
> when the terminate_all() is called, or can it be discarded when the next
> issue_pending() is called or should it be retained forever?

Uptill next terminate_all()

> Unless we can clearly define the semantics of error reporting it is very
> difficult for drivers to use it. Which is probably one of the reasons why
> there are only very few DMAengine consumers that do actual error checking.

Yes agreed, but most reasonable behaviour is to terminate. Also I would
expect the error reporting to be done thru new API and explcitly told that
we found error (if we can).

-  
~Vinod

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-10 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-14  2:57 [PATCH] dmaengine: qcom_hidma: release the descriptor before the callback Sinan Kaya
2016-07-16  1:00 ` Sinan Kaya
2016-07-24  6:24   ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-25 14:19     ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 12:55       ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-04 14:17         ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 14:40           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-08-04 15:27             ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 15:38               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-08-04 15:59                 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-08  9:08                   ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-08 12:25                     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-10 17:23                       ` Vinod Koul [this message]
2016-08-04 16:08                 ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 16:15                   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-05  6:32                     ` Robert Jarzmik
2016-08-05  8:34                       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-05 15:17                         ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-08  9:02               ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-08 14:45                 ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-10 17:28                   ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-10 17:31                     ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19  2:48                       ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19  3:26                         ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19  3:42                           ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19  3:48                             ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19  5:52                               ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19 11:13                                 ` okaya
2016-08-19 17:02                                   ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19 17:21                                     ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-22  6:08                                       ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-22 13:27                                         ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-22 17:00                                           ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-08  8:51           ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-08 12:10             ` okaya

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