From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Rob Clark <robdclark@chromium.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
timmurray@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] drm: commit_work scheduling
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 10:28:31 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200921142831.GA4268@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200921092154.GJ438822@phenom.ffwll.local>
Hello,
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 11:21:54AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> The part I don't like about this is that it all feels rather hacked
> together, and if we add more stuff (or there's some different thing in the
> system that also needs rt scheduling) then it doesn't compose.
>
> So question to rt/worker folks: What's the best way to let userspace set
> the scheduling mode and priorities of things the kernel does on its
> behalf? Surely we're not the first ones where if userspace runs with some
> rt priority it'll starve out the kernel workers that it needs. Hardcoding
> something behind a subsystem ioctl (which just means every time userspace
> changes what it does, we need a new such flag or mode) can't be the right
> thing.
Maybe not first but there haven't been many. The main benefit of workqueue
is that the users get to pool the worker threads automatically. I don't
think the existing workqueue design is something suitable for actual RT use
cases. Furthermore, there are inherent conflicts between sharing resources
and RT as this this patchset is already showing w/ needing per-crtc worker
thread. Maybe we can further abstract it if there are more use cases but for
now kthread_worker based implementation sounds about right to me.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-21 14:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-19 19:37 [PATCH 0/3] drm: commit_work scheduling Rob Clark
2020-09-19 19:37 ` [PATCH 1/3] drm/crtc: Introduce per-crtc kworker Rob Clark
2020-09-21 9:20 ` Jani Nikula
2020-09-19 19:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm/atomic: Use kthread worker for nonblocking commits Rob Clark
2020-09-21 9:23 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-21 14:55 ` Rob Clark
2020-09-22 13:18 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-19 19:37 ` [PATCH 3/3] drm: Add a client-cap to set scheduling mode Rob Clark
2020-09-21 9:21 ` [PATCH 0/3] drm: commit_work scheduling Daniel Vetter
2020-09-21 10:49 ` peterz
2020-09-21 14:28 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2020-09-21 15:16 ` Rob Clark
2020-09-21 15:20 ` Rob Clark
2020-09-21 16:19 ` Rob Clark
2020-09-22 6:58 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-22 14:48 ` Rob Clark
2020-09-23 15:25 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-24 2:33 ` Rob Clark
2020-09-24 8:49 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-24 15:24 ` Rob Clark
2020-09-24 16:15 ` Qais Yousef
2020-09-25 8:23 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-21 16:10 ` Qais Yousef
2020-09-21 16:23 ` Rob Clark
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