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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>
Cc: Sebastian Wick <sebastian.wick@redhat.com>,
	Jessica Zhang <quic_jesszhan@quicinc.com>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>, Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
	Marijn Suijten <marijn.suijten@somainline.org>,
	quic_abhinavk@quicinc.com, contact@emersion.fr,
	laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com, ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org,
	wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v5 02/10] drm: Introduce solid fill DRM plane property
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:55:00 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230818165500.50360195@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c4b7e9eb-fb5d-4b2f-8358-f41598d7d983@linaro.org>

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 14:03:14 +0300
Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org> wrote:

> On 18/08/2023 13:51, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 16:59:00 +0300
> > Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org> wrote:
> >   
> >> On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 16:44, Sebastian Wick <sebastian.wick@redhat.com> wrote:  
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:27 PM Dmitry Baryshkov
> >>> <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org> wrote:  
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 20:03, Jessica Zhang <quic_jesszhan@quicinc.com> wrote:  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Document and add support for solid_fill property to drm_plane. In
> >>>>> addition, add support for setting and getting the values for solid_fill.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To enable solid fill planes, userspace must assign a property blob to
> >>>>> the "solid_fill" plane property containing the following information:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> struct drm_mode_solid_fill {
> >>>>>          u32 version;
> >>>>>          u32 r, g, b;
> >>>>> };
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Jessica Zhang <quic_jesszhan@quicinc.com>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_state_helper.c |  9 +++++
> >>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_uapi.c         | 55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/drm_blend.c               | 30 +++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>   include/drm/drm_blend.h                   |  1 +
> >>>>>   include/drm/drm_plane.h                   | 35 ++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>   include/uapi/drm/drm_mode.h               | 24 ++++++++++++++
> >>>>>   6 files changed, 154 insertions(+)
> >>>>>     
> >>>>
> >>>> [skipped most of the patch]

...

> >>> Maybe another COLOR_FILL enum value
> >>> with alpha might be better? Maybe just doing the alpha via the alpha
> >>> property is good enough.  
> >>
> >> One of our customers has a use case for setting the opaque solid fill,
> >> while keeping the plane's alpha intact.  
> > 
> > Could you explain more about why they must keep plane alpha intact
> > instead of reprogramming everything with atomic? Is there some
> > combination that just cannot reach the same end result via userspace
> > manipulation of the solid fill values with plane alpha?
> > 
> > Or is it a matter of userspace architecture where you have independent
> > components responsible for different KMS property values?  

> The latter one. The goal is to be able to switch between pixel sources 
> without touching any additional properties (including plane's alpha value).

Sorry, but that does not seem like a good justification for KMS UAPI
design.

It is even in conflict with how atomic KMS UAPI was designed to work:
collect all your changes into a single commit, and push it at once.
Here we are talking about separate components changing the different
properties of the same KMS plane even. If you want to change both plane
opacity and contents, does it mean you need two refresh cycles, one at
a time? Could the two components be even racing with each other,
stalling each other randomly?


Thanks,
pq

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-18 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-28 17:02 [PATCH RFC v5 00/10] Support for Solid Fill Planes Jessica Zhang
2023-07-28 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC v5 01/10] drm: Introduce pixel_source DRM plane property Jessica Zhang
2023-07-28 17:24   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-04 13:15   ` Sebastian Wick
2023-08-07 17:51     ` Jessica Zhang
2023-08-08 12:05       ` Sebastian Wick
2023-07-28 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC v5 02/10] drm: Introduce solid fill " Jessica Zhang
2023-07-31  4:01   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-04 13:40     ` Sebastian Wick
2023-08-07 16:33       ` Jessica Zhang
2023-08-04 13:27   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-04 13:43     ` Sebastian Wick
2023-08-04 13:59       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-18 10:51         ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-08-18 11:03           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-18 13:55             ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2023-08-21 14:30               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-22  7:36                 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-08-07 21:41     ` Jessica Zhang
2023-08-08  1:07       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-08 22:57         ` Jessica Zhang
2023-08-28 23:45           ` Jessica Zhang
2023-08-29  0:06             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-07-28 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC v5 03/10] drm: Add solid fill pixel source Jessica Zhang
2023-07-31  4:02   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-07-28 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC v5 04/10] drm/atomic: Add pixel source to plane state dump Jessica Zhang
2023-07-29  0:04   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-07 16:39     ` Jessica Zhang
2023-07-28 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC v5 05/10] drm/atomic: Add solid fill data " Jessica Zhang
2023-07-29  0:05   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-07 16:39     ` Jessica Zhang
2023-07-28 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC v5 06/10] drm/atomic: Move framebuffer checks to helper Jessica Zhang
2023-07-31  4:06   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-07-28 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC v5 07/10] drm/atomic: Loosen FB atomic checks Jessica Zhang
2023-07-31  4:11   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-07-28 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC v5 08/10] drm/msm/dpu: Allow NULL FBs in atomic commit Jessica Zhang
2023-07-31  4:14   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-07-28 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC v5 09/10] drm/msm/dpu: Use DRM solid_fill property Jessica Zhang
2023-07-31  4:15   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-01  0:39     ` Jessica Zhang
2023-08-01  0:52       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-08-07 16:59         ` Jessica Zhang
2023-07-28 17:02 ` [PATCH RFC v5 10/10] drm/msm/dpu: Add solid fill and pixel source properties Jessica Zhang

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