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From: Thinh Nguyen <Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com>
To: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
	Wesley Cheng <quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Frank Li <Frank.li@nxp.com>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/7] usb: dwc3: qcom: Snapshot driver for backwards compatibilty
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 00:39:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250304003913.bsn5sucnofq6d6jo@synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250304000527.ybxfdjx5xzypcals@synopsys.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2025, Thinh Nguyen wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025, Bjorn Andersson wrote:
> > In order to more tightly integrate the Qualcomm glue driver with the
> > dwc3 core the driver is redesigned to avoid splitting the implementation
> > using the driver model. But due to the strong coupling to the Devicetree
> > binding needs to be updated as well.
> > 
> > Various ways to provide backwards compatibility with existing Devicetree
> > blobs has been explored, but migrating the Devicetree information
> > between the old and the new binding is non-trivial.
> > 
> > For the vast majority of boards out there, the kernel and Devicetree are
> > generated and handled together, which in practice means that backwards
> > compatibility needs to be managed across about 1 kernel release.
> > 
> > For some though, such as the various Snapdragon laptops, the Devicetree
> > blobs live a life separate of the kernel. In each one of these, with the
> > continued extension of new features, it's recommended that users would
> > upgrade their Devicetree somewhat frequently.
> > 
> > With this in mind, simply carrying a snapshot/copy of the current driver
> > is simpler than creating and maintaining the migration code.
> > 
> > The driver is kept under the same Kconfig option, to ensure that Linux
> > distributions doesn't drop USB support on these platforms.
> > 
> > The driver, which is going to be refactored to handle the newly
> > introduced qcom,snps-dwc3 compatible, is updated to temporarily not
> > match against any compatible.
> > 
> > This driver should be removed after 2 LTS releases.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@oss.qualcomm.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/usb/dwc3/Makefile           |   1 +
> >  drivers/usb/dwc3/dwc3-qcom-legacy.c | 934 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  drivers/usb/dwc3/dwc3-qcom.c        |   1 -
> >  3 files changed, 935 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> 
> This is a bit concerning if there's no matching compatible string. ie.
> we don't have user for the new driver without downstream dependencies
> (or some workaround in the driver binding).

Ignore the comment above, I missed the "temporarily" in your log
above. However, the comment below still stands.

> 
> While I understand the intention, I'm afraid we may have to support and
> maintain this much longer than the proposed 2 LTS releases (as seen with
> anything tagged with "legacy" in the upstream kernel). If possible, I'd
> prefer the complications of maintenance of the migration code be handled
> downstream.
> 

Thanks,
Thinh

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-04  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-27  0:17 [PATCH v4 0/7] usb: dwc3: qcom: Flatten dwc3 structure Bjorn Andersson
2025-02-27  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] dt-bindings: usb: Introduce qcom,snps-dwc3 Bjorn Andersson
2025-02-28 22:36   ` Rob Herring
2025-03-03 22:11     ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-02-27  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] usb: dwc3: core: Expose core driver as library Bjorn Andersson
2025-02-27 19:17   ` Frank Li
2025-02-27  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] usb: dwc3: core: Don't touch resets and clocks Bjorn Andersson
2025-02-27  4:24   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-27 15:55     ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-02-27 16:07       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-27 19:22   ` Frank Li
2025-02-27  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] usb: dwc3: qcom: Don't rely on drvdata during probe Bjorn Andersson
2025-02-27  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] usb: dwc3: qcom: Snapshot driver for backwards compatibilty Bjorn Andersson
2025-03-04  0:05   ` Thinh Nguyen
2025-03-04  0:39     ` Thinh Nguyen [this message]
2025-03-04  3:13       ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-03-05  0:31         ` Thinh Nguyen
2025-03-06 22:49           ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-03-07 16:17             ` Frank Li
2025-03-07 23:00             ` Thinh Nguyen
2025-03-07 23:16               ` Thinh Nguyen
2025-03-11  3:06               ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-03-11 23:59                 ` Thinh Nguyen
2025-02-27  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] usb: dwc3: qcom: Transition to flattened model Bjorn Andersson
2025-03-07  6:41   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-03-11  2:46     ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-03-11 19:02       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-03-18 19:12         ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-02-27  0:17 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] arm64: dts: qcom: sc8280x: Flatten the USB nodes Bjorn Andersson
2025-03-08 17:58   ` Konrad Dybcio

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