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@ 2025-04-25 14:14 Maxime Chevallier
  2025-04-25 14:14 ` [PATCH net-next v5 01/14] dt-bindings: net: Introduce the ethernet-connector description Maxime Chevallier
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From: Maxime Chevallier @ 2025-04-25 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: davem
  Cc: Maxime Chevallier, netdev, linux-kernel, linux-arm-msm,
	thomas.petazzoni, Andrew Lunn, Jakub Kicinski, Eric Dumazet,
	Paolo Abeni, Russell King, linux-arm-kernel, Christophe Leroy,
	Herve Codina, Florian Fainelli, Heiner Kallweit, Vladimir Oltean,
	Köry Maincent, Marek Behún, Oleksij Rempel,
	Nicolò Veronese, Simon Horman, mwojtas, Antoine Tenart,
	devicetree, Conor Dooley, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Rob Herring,
	Romain Gantois, Daniel Golle, Dimitri Fedrau

Hi everyone,

This is a new version of the first phase for Ethernet port support.

Before going into the details, a few important notes :

 - This is only a first phase. It instantiates the port, and leverage
   that to make the MAC <-> PHY <-> SFP usecase simpler.

 - Next phase will deal with controlling the port state, as well as the
   netlink uAPI for that.

 - The end-goal is to enable support for complex port MUX. This
   preliminary work focuses on PHY-driven ports, but this will be
   extended to support muxing at the MII level (Multi-phy, or compo PHY
   + SFP as found on Turris Omnia for example).

 - The naming is definitely not set in stone. I named that "phy_port",
   but this may convey the false sense that this is phylib-specific.
   Even the word "port" is not that great, as it already has several
   different meanings in the net world (switch port, devlink port,
   etc.). I used the term "connector" in the binding.

A bit of history on that work :

The end goal that I personnaly want to achieve is :

            + PHY - RJ45
            | 
 MAC - MUX -+ PHY - RJ45

After many discussions here on netdev@, but also at netdevconf[1] and
LPC[2], there appears to be several analoguous designs that exist out
there.

[1] : https://netdevconf.info/0x17/sessions/talk/improving-multi-phy-and-multi-port-interfaces.html
[2] : https://lpc.events/event/18/contributions/1964/ (video isn't the
right one)

Take the MAchiatobin, it has 2 interfaces that looks like this :

 MAC - PHY -+ RJ45
            |
	    + SFP - Whatever the module does

Now, looking at the Turris Omnia, we have :


 MAC - MUX -+ PHY - RJ45
            |
	    + SFP - Whatever the module does

We can find more example of this kind of designs, the common part is
that we expose multiple front-facing media ports. This is what this
current work aims at supporting. As of right now, it does'nt add any
support for muxing, but this will come later on.

This first phase focuses on phy-driven ports only, but there are already
quite some challenges already. For one, we can't really autodetect how
many ports are sitting behind a PHY. That's why this series introduces a
new binding. Describing ports in DT should however be a last-resort
thing when we need to clear some ambiguity about the PHY media-side.

The only use-cases that we have today for multi-port PHYs are combo PHYs
that drive both a Copper port and an SFP (the Macchiatobin case). This
in itself is challenging and this series only addresses part of this
support, by registering a phy_port for the PHY <-> SFP connection. The
SFP module should in the end be considered as a port as well, but that's
not yet the case.

However, because now PHYs can register phy_ports for every media-side
interface they have, they can register the capabilities of their ports,
which allows making the PHY-driver SFP case much more generic.

Let me know what you think, I'm all in for discussions :)

Regards,

Changes in V5 :

 - renamed the bindings to use the term "connector" instead of "port"
 - Rebased, and fixed some issues reported on the 83822 driver
 - Use phy_caps

Changes in V4 :

 - Introduced a kernel doc
 - Reworked the mediums definitions in patch 2
 - QCA807x now uses the generic SFP support
 - Fixed some implementation bugs to build the support list based on the
   interfaces supported on a port

V4: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20250213101606.1154014-1-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com/
V3: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20250207223634.600218-1-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com/
RFC V2: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20250122174252.82730-1-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com/
RFC V1: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20241220201506.2791940-1-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com/

Maxime

Maxime Chevallier (14):
  dt-bindings: net: Introduce the ethernet-connector description
  net: ethtool: Introduce ETHTOOL_LINK_MEDIUM_* values
  net: phy: Introduce PHY ports representation
  net: phy: dp83822: Add support for phy_port representation
  net: phy: Create a phy_port for PHY-driven SFPs
  net: phy: Introduce generic SFP handling for PHY drivers
  net: phy: marvell-88x2222: Support SFP through phy_port interface
  net: phy: marvell: Support SFP through phy_port interface
  net: phy: marvell10g: Support SFP through phy_port
  net: phy: at803x: Support SFP through phy_port interface
  net: phy: qca807x: Support SFP through phy_port interface
  net: phy: Only rely on phy_port for PHY-driven SFP
  net: phy: dp83822: Add SFP support through the phy_port interface
  Documentation: networking: Document the phy_port infrastructure

 .../bindings/net/ethernet-connector.yaml      |  47 +++
 .../devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml |  18 +
 Documentation/networking/index.rst            |   1 +
 Documentation/networking/phy-port.rst         | 111 +++++++
 MAINTAINERS                                   |   3 +
 drivers/net/phy/Makefile                      |   2 +-
 drivers/net/phy/dp83822.c                     |  77 +++--
 drivers/net/phy/marvell-88x2222.c             |  96 +++---
 drivers/net/phy/marvell.c                     | 100 +++---
 drivers/net/phy/marvell10g.c                  |  37 +--
 drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c                  | 312 +++++++++++++++++-
 drivers/net/phy/phy_port.c                    | 182 ++++++++++
 drivers/net/phy/qcom/at803x.c                 |  64 +---
 drivers/net/phy/qcom/qca807x.c                |  75 ++---
 include/linux/ethtool.h                       |  33 +-
 include/linux/phy.h                           |  38 ++-
 include/linux/phy_port.h                      |  92 ++++++
 include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h                  |  20 ++
 net/ethtool/common.c                          | 265 +++++++++------
 19 files changed, 1186 insertions(+), 387 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-connector.yaml
 create mode 100644 Documentation/networking/phy-port.rst
 create mode 100644 drivers/net/phy/phy_port.c
 create mode 100644 include/linux/phy_port.h

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2.49.0


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2025-04-29  0:11   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-29  7:20     ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-25 14:14 ` [PATCH net-next v5 04/14] net: phy: dp83822: Add support for phy_port representation Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-30  8:52   ` Simon Horman
2025-04-25 14:14 ` [PATCH net-next v5 05/14] net: phy: Create a phy_port for PHY-driven SFPs Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-25 14:14 ` [PATCH net-next v5 06/14] net: phy: Introduce generic SFP handling for PHY drivers Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-25 14:15 ` [PATCH net-next v5 07/14] net: phy: marvell-88x2222: Support SFP through phy_port interface Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-29  0:11   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-25 14:15 ` [PATCH net-next v5 08/14] net: phy: marvell: " Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-25 14:15 ` [PATCH net-next v5 09/14] net: phy: marvell10g: Support SFP through phy_port Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-25 14:15 ` [PATCH net-next v5 10/14] net: phy: at803x: Support SFP through phy_port interface Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-25 14:15 ` [PATCH net-next v5 11/14] net: phy: qca807x: " Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-25 14:15 ` [PATCH net-next v5 12/14] net: phy: Only rely on phy_port for PHY-driven SFP Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-25 14:15 ` [PATCH net-next v5 13/14] net: phy: dp83822: Add SFP support through the phy_port interface Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-25 14:15 ` [PATCH net-next v5 14/14] Documentation: networking: Document the phy_port infrastructure Maxime Chevallier

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