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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>
Cc: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Kuldeep Singh <kuldeep.singh@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Thara Gopinath <thara.gopinath@gmail.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>, Frank Li <Frank.Li@kernel.org>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dmaengine@vger.kernel.org,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Gaurav Kashyap <gaurav.kashyap@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Neeraj Soni <neeraj.soni@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Add support for qcrypto on shikra
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 17:52:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260528175214.GA3936298@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMRc=Me6cqasdBknbAjUZ5BqcpERYwV+NvseRJp4P0aTSYAMUw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 11:13:47AM -0400, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2026 15:50:10 +0200, Dmitry Baryshkov
> <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com> said:
> > On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 09:13:23AM -0400, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> >> On Thu, 28 May 2026 13:54:51 +0200, Kuldeep Singh
> >> <kuldeep.singh@oss.qualcomm.com> said:
> >> >>> +Bartosz, Gaurav, Neeraj
> >>
> >> I know about the self-tests etc., I will address them next.
> >
> > My 2c, the self-tests would be more important, as they are fixes. Doing
> > the crypto in a wrong way is a bad idea...
> >
> 
> Then let that be "in parallel". :)

The race conditions between Linux and other environments (modem, TEE,
etc) are of course about correctness as well, even though the self-tests
don't expose race condition bugs.  The self-tests have always just done
a few serialized tests.  That's sufficient for CPU-based code, but not
for offload drivers, which need to be stress-tested to find the
concurrency bugs that occur during actual use.

Is there a plan to improve the tests to do stress testing as well?

It's kind of odd that they don't do that yet.  But it makes sense: the
CPU-based code doesn't need it, while the offload driver authors have
never cared enough about correctness and test coverage to add it.

I still don't really see a path forward here, given the track record and
poor performance numbers.  This approach just doesn't work.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-28 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-14 19:23 [PATCH 0/3] Add support for qcrypto on shikra Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-14 19:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: crypto: qcom-qce: Document the Shikra crypto engine Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-15 11:00   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-19  7:09     ` Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-19  7:27       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-19  8:55         ` Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-14 19:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] dt-bindings: bam-dma: Increase maxItems to seven for iommus Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-14 19:23 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: dts: qcom: shikra: Add qcrypto node support Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-15 10:28   ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-21  8:45     ` Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-25  8:47       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-05-25 10:09         ` Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-25 10:43           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-05-14 19:47 ` [PATCH 0/3] Add support for qcrypto on shikra Eric Biggers
2026-05-21  6:51   ` Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-22  2:49     ` Eric Biggers
2026-05-25  5:40       ` Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-25 14:28         ` Eric Biggers
2026-05-25 15:26           ` Eric Biggers
2026-05-28 11:54           ` Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-28 13:13             ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-05-28 13:50               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-05-28 15:13                 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-05-28 17:52                   ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2026-05-29 15:58                     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-06-10  6:05                       ` Kuldeep Singh
2026-05-25 10:07       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-05-25 14:45         ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-08 10:35 ` Kuldeep Singh

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