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From: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
To: cpufreq <cpufreq@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: skannan@codeaurora.org
Subject: CPUfreq - udelay() interaction issues
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:34:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BCFC3D0.5080904@codeaurora.org> (raw)

Hi,

I think there are a couple of issues with cpufreq and udelay 
interaction. But that's based on my understanding of cpufreq. I have 
worked with it for sometime now, so hopefully I not completely wrong. 
So, I will list my assumptions and what I think is/are the issue(s) and 
their solutions.

Please correct me if I'm wrong and let me know what you think.

Assumptions:
============
* Let's assume ondemand governor is being used.
* Ondemand uses one timer per core and they have CPU affinity set.
* For SMP, CPUfreq core expects the CPUfreq driver to adjust the per-CPU 
jiffies.
* P1 indicates for lower CPU perfomance levels and P2 indicates a much 
higher CPU pref level (say 10 times faster).

Issue 1: UP (non-SMP) scenario
==============================

This issue is also present for SMP case, but I don't want to complicate 
this example with it. For future reference in this thread, let's call 
this "Context switch issue".

Steps:
- CPU running at P1
- Driver context calls udelay
- udelay does loop calculation and starts looping
- Context switches to ondemand gov timer function
- Ondemand gov changes CPU to P2
- Context switches back to Driver context
- udelay does a delay that's 10 times shorter.

The last point is obviously a bad thing. I'm more concerned about ARM 
arch for the moment, but considering x86 takes a max of 20ms (20000us) 
for udelay, the above scenario looks very possible.

Is there anything I missed that prevents this from happening?

If this really is an issue, then one solution is to make cpufreq defer 
the freq change if some flag indicates that udelay is active. Basically, 
some kind of r/w semaphore or spinlock.

Does this sound like a reasonable solution?

Issue 2: SMP scenario
=====================

For future reference in this thread, let's call this "CPU affinity issue".

Steps:
- CPU0 running at P1
- CPU1 running at P2
- Driver context calls udelay in CPU0
- udelay does loop calculation and starts looping
- Driver context/thread is moved from CPU0 to CPU1
- udelay does a delay that's 10 times shorter.

Again, the last point is obviously a bad thing. Am I missing anything 
here too? Again, I care more about ARM, but x86 (which a lot more people 
might care about) also seems to be broken if it doesn't use the TSC 
method for the delay.

Assuming we fix Issue 1 (or it's not present) I think an ideal solution 
for this issue is to do something like:

udelay(us)
{
   set cpu affinity to current CPU;
   Do the usual udelay code;
   restore cpu affinity status;
}

Does this sound like a reasonable solution?

Thanks,
Saravana

             reply	other threads:[~2010-04-22  3:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-22  3:34 Saravana Kannan [this message]
2010-04-22 21:22 ` CPUfreq - udelay() interaction issues Saravana Kannan
2010-04-22 23:18   ` Thomas Renninger
2010-04-22 23:37     ` Saravana Kannan
2010-04-22 23:21 ` Saravana Kannan
2010-04-23 18:40   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-04-23 19:22     ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-23 19:55       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-04-24 18:56         ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-24 21:00           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-04-24 23:20             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-24  2:57       ` Saravana Kannan
2010-04-24  2:49     ` Saravana Kannan
2010-04-24  5:56       ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-24 13:58       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-04-27 23:41         ` Saravana Kannan

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