From: Bryan O'Donoghue <bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org>
To: Vikash Garodia <quic_vgarodia@quicinc.com>,
Dikshita Agarwal <quic_dikshita@quicinc.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org>,
Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Vedang Nagar <quic_vnagar@quicinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] media: venus: fix TOCTOU vulnerability when reading packets from shared memory
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 18:51:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <767909a0-70ea-47d3-b6bf-b57e5d7e7c5c@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7df808c-0724-3f4d-b910-6e44637c7aaf@quicinc.com>
On 15/05/2025 14:23, Vikash Garodia wrote:
>> Re-reading to see if the firmware wrote new bad data to the transmitted packet
>> in-memory is not a fix before or after the memcpy() because the time you do that
>> re-read is not fixed - locked wrt the freerunning firmware.
> It would be more meaningful if you can suggest the vulnerability you see with
> the changes suggested i.e adding the check in local packet against the size read
> from shared queue. Based on that we can see how to fix it, otherwise this
> discussion in not leading to any conclusion.
So to re-iterate.
TOCTOU is this
if (*ptr_val >> 2 >= MAX)
return -EBAD;
memcpy(dst, src, *ptr_val >> 2);
Here a malicious actor can change *ptr_val between our check and our use.
not
data_value = *ptr_val >> 2;
if (data_value >= MAX)
return -EBAD;
memcpy(dst, src, data_value);
Here the taking a copy of the value and subsequently relying on that
value mitigates TOCTOU, because the value *ptr_val is latched - read
into a local variable which cannot be manipulated from an outside agent
i.e. venus firmware.
The example in the commit log is not a TOCTOU for that reason.
Adding an additional check _after_ the memcpy() seems silly to me because
data_value = *ptr_val >> 2;
if (data_value >= MAX)
return -EBAD;
memcpy(dst, src, data_value);
// This statement could be false
if (data_value != *ptr_value >> 2)
return -EBAD;
// while this subsequent statement is true
if (data_value != *ptr_value >> 2)
return -EBAD;
And in any case this is a post-use sanity check not a mitigation for
TOCTOU which we don't have.
---
bod
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-15 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-14 13:38 [PATCH v3 0/2] venus driver fixes for vulnerabilities due to unexpected firmware payload Dikshita Agarwal
2025-05-14 13:38 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] media: venus: fix TOCTOU vulnerability when reading packets from shared memory Dikshita Agarwal
2025-05-15 9:17 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-05-15 9:56 ` Vikash Garodia
2025-05-15 10:28 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-05-15 12:11 ` Vikash Garodia
2025-05-15 12:47 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-05-15 13:23 ` Vikash Garodia
2025-05-15 17:51 ` Bryan O'Donoghue [this message]
2025-05-15 18:25 ` Vikash Garodia
2025-05-16 10:11 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-05-14 13:38 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] media: venus: Fix OOB read due to missing payload bound check Dikshita Agarwal
2025-05-17 21:41 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-05-18 3:56 ` Vikash Garodia
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