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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Sarthak Garg <quic_sartgarg@quicinc.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
Cc: linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	quic_cang@quicinc.com, quic_nguyenb@quicinc.com,
	quic_rampraka@quicinc.com, quic_pragalla@quicinc.com,
	quic_sayalil@quicinc.com, quic_nitirawa@quicinc.com,
	quic_bhaskarv@quicinc.com, kernel@oss.qualcomm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 2/4] dt-bindings: mmc: controller: Add max-sd-hs-frequency property
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 11:30:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83f88dd5-8c74-4c2f-b94e-6c16dcbd44f1@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6117473-fa38-48db-94a1-892b76abc10f@oss.qualcomm.com>

On 01/07/2025 11:04, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at the docs, a number of platforms have various limitations
>>>>> with regards to frequency at specific speed-modes, some of which seem
>>>>> to be handled implicitly by rounding in the clock framework's
>>>>> round/set_rate().
>>>>>
>>>>> I can very easily imagine there are either boards or platforms in the
>>>>> wild, where the speed must be limited for various reasons, maybe some
>>>>> of them currently don't advertise it (like sm8550 on next/master) to
>>>>> hide that
>>>>
>>>> But there are no such now. The only argument (fact) provided in this
>>>> patchset is: this is issue specific to SM8550 SoC, not the board. See
>>>> last patch. Therefore this is compatible-deducible and this makes
>>>> property without any upstream user.
>>>
>>> When one appears, we will have to carry code to repeat what the property
>>> does, based on a specific compatible.. And all OS implementations will
>>> have to do the same, instead of parsing the explicit information
>>
>> Adding new property in such case will be trivial and simple, unlike
>> having to maintain unused ABI.
>>
>> And it will be unused, because last patch DTS should be rejected on that
>> basis: adding redundant properties which are already defined by the
>> compatible.
> 
> Got some more fresh information.. This apparently *does* vary across
> boards, as there is a recommended hardware workaround to this rate
> limitation (requiring an external clock source, which is up to the
> OEM to implement or not)


This should be clearly explained in commit msg and the DTS patch
re-written because it seems it is not a property of the SoC.

I mean, really, that last patch here makes entire discussion pointless,
because till it is in the patchset is a proof this is a SoC level property.

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-01  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-18  7:28 [PATCH V3 0/4] Add level shifter support for qualcomm SOC's Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:28 ` [PATCH V3 1/4] mmc: sdhci-msm: Enable tuning for SDR50 mode for SD card Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:28 ` [PATCH V3 2/4] dt-bindings: mmc: controller: Add max-sd-hs-frequency property Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:43   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-18  8:38     ` Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  9:08       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-20  9:07         ` Sarthak Garg
2025-06-21 10:20     ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-22  9:48       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-23 12:08         ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-23 12:16           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-23 12:31             ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-24  6:06               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-01  9:04                 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-01  9:30                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2025-07-24 11:48                     ` Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:28 ` [PATCH V3 3/4] mmc: core: Introduce a new flag max-sd-hs-frequency Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:28 ` [PATCH V3 4/4] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8550: Remove SDR104/SDR50 broken capabilities Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:41   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-18  8:44     ` Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  9:08       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-21 10:23   ` Konrad Dybcio

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