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From: Vivek Gautam <vivek.gautam-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Tomasz Figa <tfiga-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 6/6] drm/msm: iommu: Replace runtime calls with runtime suppliers
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 22:54:46 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFp+6iF3cEV60NrFMXZqP=enrVNtP9PPLTUOXhasRp2jc2Qd0w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5CzOJ0oS8LLcKP-DgyXSXgzafg5CWPAvnR-QDPS+DZAUg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hi,

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
>> [sorry, I had intended to reply sooner but clearly forgot]
>>
>>
>> On 16/02/18 00:13, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:14 AM, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 15/02/18 04:17, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you elaborate on what kind of locking you are concerned about?
>>>>>> As I explained before, the normally happening fast path would lock
>>>>>> dev->power_lock only for the brief moment of incrementing the runtime
>>>>>> PM usage counter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My bad, that's not even it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The atomic usage counter is incremented beforehands, without any
>>>>> locking [1] and the spinlock is acquired only for the sake of
>>>>> validating that device's runtime PM state remained valid indeed [2],
>>>>> which would be the case in the fast path of the same driver doing two
>>>>> mappings in parallel, with the master powered on (and so the SMMU,
>>>>> through device links; if master was not powered on already, powering
>>>>> on the SMMU is unavoidable anyway and it would add much more latency
>>>>> than the spinlock itself).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We now have no locking at all in the map path, and only a per-domain lock
>>>> around TLB sync in unmap which is unfortunately necessary for
>>>> correctness;
>>>> the latter isn't too terrible, since in "serious" hardware it should only
>>>> be
>>>> serialising a few cpus serving the same device against each other (e.g.
>>>> for
>>>> multiple queues on a single NIC).
>>>>
>>>> Putting in a global lock which serialises *all* concurrent map and unmap
>>>> calls for *all* unrelated devices makes things worse. Period. Even if the
>>>> lock itself were held for the minimum possible time, i.e. trivially
>>>> "spin_lock(&lock); spin_unlock(&lock)", the cost of repeatedly bouncing
>>>> that
>>>> one cache line around between 96 CPUs across two sockets is not
>>>> negligible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair enough. Note that we're in a quite interesting situation now:
>>>   a) We need to have runtime PM enabled on Qualcomm SoC to have power
>>> properly managed,
>>>   b) We need to have lock-free map/unmap on such distributed systems,
>>>   c) If runtime PM is enabled, we need to call into runtime PM from any
>>> code that does hardware accesses, otherwise the IOMMU API (and so DMA
>>> API and then any V4L2 driver) becomes unusable.
>>>
>>> I can see one more way that could potentially let us have all the
>>> three. How about enabling runtime PM only on selected implementations
>>> (e.g. qcom,smmu) and then having all the runtime PM calls surrounded
>>> with if (pm_runtime_enabled()), which is lockless?
>>
>>
>> Yes, that's the kind of thing I was gravitating towards - my vague thought
>> was adding some flag to the smmu_domain, but pm_runtime_enabled() does look
>> conceptually a lot cleaner.
>
> Great, thanks. Looks like we're in agreement now. \o/
>
> Vivek, does this sound reasonable to you?

Yea, sound good to me. I will respin the patches.

Thanks & Regards
Vivek

>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz



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      parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-22 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-07 10:31 [PATCH v7 0/6] iommu/arm-smmu: Add runtime pm/sleep support Vivek Gautam
     [not found] ` <1517999482-17317-1-git-send-email-vivek.gautam-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-07 10:31   ` [PATCH v7 1/6] base: power: runtime: Export pm_runtime_get/put_suppliers Vivek Gautam
2018-02-13  7:44     ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]       ` <CAAFQd5BmroRf-C8dQkvTKHWK1psGnNi1t7g-q=Xce6KjrGTsdw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-13 12:00         ` Robin Murphy
2018-02-13 12:54           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-02-13 13:37             ` Robin Murphy
2018-02-07 10:31   ` [PATCH v7 2/6] iommu/arm-smmu: Add pm_runtime/sleep ops Vivek Gautam
2018-02-13  8:03     ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]       ` <CAAFQd5B2u8RL-tdB3qgPxVUcXnsBSEhXRBZWxqO-w6rYKAiOtg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-13 10:25         ` Vivek Gautam
2018-02-14  3:45           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-02-07 10:31   ` [PATCH v7 3/6] iommu/arm-smmu: Invoke pm_runtime during probe, add/remove device Vivek Gautam
2018-02-13  8:24     ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]       ` <CAAFQd5DxYhkK61VDAesby6bT+FtG2nqsbHQRvxkhrsSS0KWtog-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-13 12:57         ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]           ` <906051dd-8898-ec6f-5ad4-3f37716292cf-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-13 13:52             ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]               ` <CAAFQd5DJtQYPg5S3Ep2bK27+D5rQiKuA-uPfMDUon3FudmGF0w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14  8:24                 ` Vivek Gautam
2018-02-14  8:28       ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]     ` <1517999482-17317-4-git-send-email-vivek.gautam-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-22 23:52       ` Jordan Crouse
     [not found]         ` <20180222235200.GA18743-9PYrDHPZ2Orvke4nUoYGnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-23 10:36           ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]             ` <CAFp+6iGQ5Vckui14Jb=V0uk_Pjes95hOxo=KBijR4yxPeDDzFg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-23 15:40               ` [Freedreno] " Jordan Crouse
     [not found]                 ` <20180223154048.GB18743-9PYrDHPZ2Orvke4nUoYGnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-23 17:43                   ` Vivek Gautam
2018-02-07 10:31   ` [PATCH v7 4/6] iommu/arm-smmu: Add the device_link between masters and smmu Vivek Gautam
2018-02-13  8:31     ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]       ` <CAAFQd5BQAs9=N27_Z0pJNSrndFY3vFin2KBP44UtiW+tMXy5nQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-13 10:14         ` Vivek Gautam
2018-02-07 10:31   ` [PATCH v7 5/6] iommu/arm-smmu: Add support for qcom, smmu-v2 variant Vivek Gautam
2018-02-09 10:57     ` [PATCH v8 5/6] iommu/arm-smmu: Add support for qcom,smmu-v2 variant Vivek Gautam
2018-02-13  8:57       ` Tomasz Figa
2018-02-07 10:31   ` [PATCH v7 6/6] drm/msm: iommu: Replace runtime calls with runtime suppliers Vivek Gautam
2018-02-13  9:10     ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]       ` <CAAFQd5AjopiX6fDgD+mO+-+d0yj-swEnVCNvccWRBSMO+XVJkA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-13 16:42         ` Jordan Crouse
2018-02-14  3:31           ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]             ` <CAAFQd5CjQRFATfh-mRQv5J=WefYuxBVTkk=Ju09FoqA-Or5Cvg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 15:48               ` Jordan Crouse
     [not found]                 ` <20180214154850.GA25422-9PYrDHPZ2Orvke4nUoYGnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 16:12                   ` [Freedreno] " Rob Clark
2018-02-15  4:09                     ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                       ` <CAAFQd5C-9mbd3hDSvz10a1oiO0--FT-L4EpsAYcALxxUvk6Fjg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-15 14:14                         ` Rob Clark
2018-02-13 18:03         ` Rob Clark
2018-02-14  1:59           ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]             ` <CAAFQd5BKRumpEfAKNF_RKS-ZZ8D671DfOz4vB2+w1SV3aG9NxQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14  2:13               ` Rob Clark
     [not found]                 ` <CAF6AEGuNZJKtwGZ5mLfqNND2jtU+HYM11UONfAtVTzoM0QVpdg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14  3:01                   ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                     ` <CAAFQd5BZJ1G0RG32hYErNzPRvisBhhiSNCBsjbzfm0WzO=DnsQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14  4:17                       ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]                         ` <CAFp+6iHaycK=CcE1S15EeuMkaw8LnW0ebptU0hM6tUtWdeEOtA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14  5:38                           ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                             ` <CAAFQd5Afj-Bj+3wHwmF2tT7y=46EsYEtO_mXfY6stXBgHutEUg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14  9:13                               ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]                                 ` <CAFp+6iGX6pr+MdPSSHHG=qOnhHky_8OHiDqAcJ9UudEUv=JMHg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14  9:16                                   ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                                     ` <CAAFQd5DiwAugGnPOTw0+XrEfef9x-n-vx59JFuXpNawjiXHwCw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 10:33                                       ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]                                         ` <CAFp+6iEW0faeHDfzN_F1bRrHGcVo3sPCk4HSY=t9dnEvHkDkYw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 16:03                                           ` Robin Murphy
2018-02-15  3:17                                             ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                                               ` <CAAFQd5AmG1zSm+CouXOCJbs8SNGFk1-RqfU1nWGjMGJMB-qfvw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-15  4:17                                                 ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                                                   ` <CAAFQd5A9B-di9svtiJbvk2hz1U1xo61rTY5vt6AD+KR5iMcG-A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-15 17:14                                                     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]                                                       ` <7406f1ce-c2c9-a6bd-2886-5a34de45add6-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-16  0:13                                                         ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                                                           ` <CAAFQd5DkLtq2w00=Zd4sMDB4QOWqi7R-zgydECJXLdTmaHty+g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-22  8:13                                                             ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                                                               ` <CAAFQd5CQoDqunAunwoVo7W=QXa=ET=eJ2s_j9j+3YgAR2EGgCg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-22 13:30                                                                 ` Rob Clark
2018-02-22 13:45                                                             ` Robin Murphy
2018-02-22 14:12                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                                                                 ` <CAAFQd5CzOJ0oS8LLcKP-DgyXSXgzafg5CWPAvnR-QDPS+DZAUg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-22 17:24                                                                   ` Vivek Gautam [this message]

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