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From: Stephan Gerhold <stephan.gerhold@linaro.org>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
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	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 24/24] arm64: dts: qcom: x1e80100: Describe GPU_CC power plumbing requirements
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 08:34:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aIhrav7GKpsbVpto@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50868cd8-68a9-4bad-99f3-8cf542886fb6@oss.qualcomm.com>

On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 11:31:10PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> On 7/28/25 7:10 PM, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 06:16:24PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> >> From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
> >>
> >> A number of power rails must be powered on in order for GPU_CC to
> >> function. Ensure that's conveyed to the OS.
> >>
> >> Fixes: 721e38301b79 ("arm64: dts: qcom: x1e80100: Add gpu support")
> >> Signed-off-by: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
> >> ---
> >>  arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/x1e80100.dtsi | 6 ++++++
> >>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/x1e80100.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/x1e80100.dtsi
> >> index 5e9a8fa3cf96468b12775f91192cbd779d5ce946..6620517fbb0f3ed715c4901ec53dcbc6235be88f 100644
> >> --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/x1e80100.dtsi
> >> +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/x1e80100.dtsi
> >> @@ -3928,6 +3928,12 @@ gpucc: clock-controller@3d90000 {
> >>  			clocks = <&bi_tcxo_div2>,
> >>  				 <&gcc GCC_GPU_GPLL0_CPH_CLK_SRC>,
> >>  				 <&gcc GCC_GPU_GPLL0_DIV_CPH_CLK_SRC>;
> >> +
> >> +			power-domains = <&rpmhpd RPMHPD_CX>,
> >> +					<&rpmhpd RPMHPD_MX>,
> >> +					<&rpmhpd RPMHPD_GFX>,
> >> +					<&rpmhpd RPMHPD_GMXC>;
> >> +
> >>  			#clock-cells = <1>;
> >>  			#reset-cells = <1>;
> >>  			#power-domain-cells = <1>;
> >>
> > 
> > To repeat your own message from a couple of months back [1]:
> > 
> >> You shouldn't be messing with VDD_GFX on platforms with a GMU.
> >>
> >> Parts of the clock controller are backed by one of the MX rails,
> >> with some logic depending on CX/GFX, but handling of the latter is
> >> fully deferred to the GMU firmware.
> >>
> >> Konrad
> > 
> > Please describe somewhere in the cover letter or the individual patches
> > how this relates to the responsibilities of the GMU. I searched for
> > "GMU" in the patch series and couldn't find any note about this.
> > 
> > Also: How much is a plain "power on" votes (without a corresponding
> > "required-opps") really worth nowadays? An arbitrary low voltage level
> > on those rails won't be sufficient to make the GPU_CC actually
> > "function". Do you need "required-opps" here? In the videocc/camcc case
> > we have those.
> 
> Right, I failed to capture this.
> 
> The GFX rail should be powered on before unclamping the GX_GDSC (as
> per the programming guide). The clock controller HPG however doesn't
> seem to have a concept of RPMh, so it says something that amounts to
> "tell the PMIC to supply power on this rail". In Linux, since Commit
> e3e56c050ab6 ("soc: qcom: rpmhpd: Make power_on actually enable the
> domain") we don't really need a defined level for this (perhaps it's
> more ""portable"" across potential fuse-bins if we don't hardcode the
> lowest level anyway?).

Thanks, I forgot that we have this commit.

> 
> However after that happens, the level scaling is done by the GMU
> firmware. This holds for allOf CX/MX/GFX. I'm not super sure if
> both MX and (G)MXC need to both be captured together - downstream
> seems to describe MXC as a child of MX (in socname-regulators.dtsi),
> but I'm not really sure this is true in hardware.
> 
> The GPU driver currently first enables the GX_GDSC and only then
> does it kickstart the GMU firmware. Downstream seems to do that as
> well. So on a second thought, since we've not seen any errors so
> far, it calls into question what role the GFX rail plays in the
> GX_GDSC's powering up..
> 

It might play a role, but we wouldn't know since AFAICT we don't support
enabling the GX_GDSC. Look at the beautiful gdsc_gx_do_nothing_enable()
function, it basically just defers the entire task to the GMU. The GDSC
just exists in Linux so we can turn it *off* during GMU crashes. :D

I think we should identify precisely which votes we are missing, instead
of making blanket votes for all the power rails somehow related to the
GPU. In this case this means: Which rails do we need to vote for to make
the GMU turn on? If there are no votes necessary after the GMU is on,
it's better to have none IMO.

Thanks,
Stephan

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-29  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-28 16:16 [RFC PATCH 00/24] GPU_CC power requirements reality check Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 01/24] dt-bindings: power: qcom,rpmpd: Add SC8280XP_MXC_AO Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-30 22:01   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 02/24] pmdomain: qcom: rpmhpd: Add MXC to SC8280XP Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-31 20:31   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 03/24] dt-bindings: clock: qcom,gpucc: Merge in sm8450-gpucc.yaml Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-30 22:04   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 04/24] dt-bindings: clock: qcom,gpucc: Describe actual power domain plumbing Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 05/24] dt-bindings: clock: qcom,gpucc: Sort out SA8540P constraints Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 06/24] arm64: dts: qcom: qcs8300: Describe GPU_CC power plumbing requirements Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 07/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sa8540p: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 08/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sa8775p: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 09/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sar2130p: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 10/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sc7180: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 11/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sc7280: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 12/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sc8180x: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 13/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sc8280xp: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 14/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sdm670: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 15/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sdm845: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 16/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sm4450: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 17/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sm6350: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 18/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8150: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 19/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8250: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 20/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8350: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 21/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8450: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 22/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8550: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 23/24] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8650: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC 24/24] arm64: dts: qcom: x1e80100: " Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-28 17:10   ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-07-28 21:31     ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-29  6:34       ` Stephan Gerhold [this message]
2025-07-29  8:23         ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-29 13:28           ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-29 15:44             ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-07-29 22:08               ` Akhil P Oommen
2025-08-19 12:27 ` [RFC PATCH 00/24] GPU_CC power requirements reality check Ulf Hansson

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