From: Abhishek Sahu <absahu@codeaurora.org>
To: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
Cc: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@bootlin.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Cyrille Pitchen <cyrille.pitchen@wedev4u.fr>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Andy Gross <andy.gross@linaro.org>,
Archit Taneja <architt@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: helper function for raw read
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:49:46 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ad00e3739457dadc919bbebf9f6901b7@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180607144350.1a4427a0@xps13>
On 2018-06-07 18:13, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> Hi Abhishek,
>
> On Mon, 28 May 2018 13:04:45 +0530, Abhishek Sahu
> <absahu@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-05-27 19:23, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>> > Hi Abhishek,
>> > > On Fri, 25 May 2018 17:51:43 +0530, Abhishek Sahu
>> > <absahu@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>> > >> This patch does minor code reorganization for raw reads.
>> >> Currently the raw read is required for complete page but for
>> >> subsequent patches related with erased codeword bit flips
>> >> detection, only few CW should be read. So, this patch adds
>> >> helper function and introduces the read CW bitmask which
>> >> specifies which CW reads are required in complete page.
>> >> >> Signed-off-by: Abhishek Sahu <absahu@codeaurora.org>
>> >> ---
<snip>
>> >> + for (i = start_step; i < last_step; i++) {
>> > > This comment applies for both patches 15 and 16:
>> > > I would really prefer having a qcom_nandc_read_cw_raw() that reads only
>> > one CW. From qcom_nandc_read_page_raw() you would loop over all the CW
>> > calling qcom_nandc_read_cw_raw() helper (it's raw reads, we don't care
>> > about performances)
>>
>> Doing that way will degrade performances hugely.
>>
>> Currently once we formed the descriptor, the DMA will take care
>> of complete page data transfer from NAND device to buffer and will
>> generate single interrupt.
>>
>> Now it will form one CW descriptor and wait for it to be finished.
>> In background, the data transfer from NAND device will be also
>> split and for every CW, it will give the PAGE_READ command again,
>> which is again time consuming.
>>
>> Data transfer degradation is ok but it will increase CPU time
>> and number of interrupts which will impact other peripherals
>> performance that time.
>>
>> Most of the NAND parts has 4K page size i.e 8 CWs.
>>
>> > and from ->read_page_raw() you would check
>> > CW with uncorrectable errors for being blank with that helper. You
>> > would avoid the not-so-nice logic where you read all the CW between the
>> > first bad one and the last bad one.
>> >
>> The reading b/w first CW and last CW is only from NAND device to
>> NAND
>> HW buffers. The NAND controller has 2 HW buffers which is used to
>> optimize the traffic throughput between the NAND device and
>> system memory,in both directions. Each buffer is 544B in size: 512B
>> for data + 32B spare bytes. Throughput optimization is achieved by
>> executing internal data transfers (i.e. between NANDc buffers and
>> system memory) simultaneously with NAND device operations.
>>
>> Making separate function won't help in improving performance for
>> this case either since once every thing is set for reading page
>> (descriptor formation, issue the PAGE_READ, Data transfer from
>> Flash array to data register in NAND device), the read time from
>> device to NAND HW buffer is very less. Again, we did optimization
>> in which the copying from NAND HW buffer to actual buffer is being
>> done only for those CW's only.
>>
>> Again, in this case CPU time will be more.
>>
>
>
> I understand the point and thanks for detailing it. But raw access
> happen either during debug (we don't care about CPU time) or when there
> is an uncorrectable error, which is very unlikely to happen very often
> when using eg. UBI/UBIFS. So I'm still convinced it is better to have a
> _simple_ and straightforward code for this path than something way
> harder to understand and much faster.
>
> You can add a comment to explain what would be the fastest way and
> why though.
>
Thanks Miquel. I will do the changes to make function for
single codeword raw read.
Regards,
Abhishek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-11 9:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-25 12:21 [PATCH v3 00/16] Update for QCOM NAND driver Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] mtd: rawnand: helper function for setting up ECC configuration Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-26 8:42 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-28 5:46 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-06-07 12:37 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-06-11 9:16 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-06-18 10:04 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-29 19:30 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-30 0:28 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-05-30 6:21 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-30 7:38 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-05-30 8:53 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] mtd: rawnand: denali: use helper function for ecc setup Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-27 9:26 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] dt-bindings: qcom_nandc: make nand-ecc-strength optional Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-26 8:42 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-28 5:53 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] dt-bindings: qcom_nandc: remove nand-ecc-step-size Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: remove dt property nand-ecc-step-size Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-26 8:42 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-28 5:55 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: use the ecc strength from device parameter Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-26 8:43 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-28 6:01 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: wait for desc completion in all BAM channels Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-26 8:43 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: erased page detection for uncorrectable errors only Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: fix null pointer access for erased page detection Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: parse read errors for read oob also Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: modify write_oob to remove read codeword part Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: fix return value for raw page read Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-26 8:43 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: minor code reorganization for bad block check Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-26 8:46 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-28 6:12 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-28 7:03 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-28 10:10 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-06-07 12:53 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-06-11 13:22 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-06-18 11:35 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-06-20 7:04 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-26 8:58 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-28 6:16 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-28 7:09 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: check for operation errors in case of raw read Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-26 8:58 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: helper function for " Abhishek Sahu
2018-05-27 13:53 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-05-28 7:34 ` Abhishek Sahu
2018-06-07 12:43 ` Miquel Raynal
2018-06-11 9:19 ` Abhishek Sahu [this message]
2018-05-25 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] mtd: rawnand: qcom: erased page bitflips detection Abhishek Sahu
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