From: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: Johan Hovold <johan+linaro@kernel.org>,
Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>, Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@somainline.org>,
Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-phy@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/13] phy: qcom-qmp-pcie: drop power-down delay config
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 17:41:28 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbd85c78-86dc-8dd0-83d2-43af933e5a92@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y0V66q53I4ivlXI+@hovoldconsulting.com>
On 11/10/2022 17:17, Johan Hovold wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 05:04:04PM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>> On 11/10/2022 16:53, Johan Hovold wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 04:46:53PM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/2022 16:14, Johan Hovold wrote:
>>>>> The power-down delay was included in the first version of the QMP driver
>>>>> as an optional delay after powering on the PHY (using
>>>>> POWER_DOWN_CONTROL) and just before starting it. Later changes modified
>>>>> this sequence by powering on before initialising the PHY, but the
>>>>> optional delay stayed where it was (i.e. before starting the PHY).
>>>>>
>>>>> The vendor driver does not use a delay before starting the PHY and this
>>>>> is likely not needed on any platform unless there is a corresponding
>>>>> delay in the vendor kernel init sequence tables (i.e. in devicetree).
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's keep the delay for now, but drop the redundant delay period
>>>>> configuration while increasing the unnecessarily low timer slack
>>>>> somewhat.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, the vendor driver does this 995..1005 sleep. But contrary to
>>>> our driver it does that after programming whole PHY init sequence, which
>>>> includes SW_RESET / START_CTL, but before programming the pipe clocks.
>>>
>>> Right, it does it after starting the PHY which means that you don't have
>>> to poll for as long for the PHY status.
>>>
>>> It's a different delay entirely.
>>
>> No-no-no. The 995-1005 delay was added guess for which SoC? For ipq8074,
>> where the config tables contain the ugly CFG_L writes for SW_RESET /
>> START_CTRL. So, it is the same delay, but added by somebody who didn't
>> care enough. The original 10-11 delay is a completely different story,
>> you are correct here.
>
> Yeah, I noticed that ipq8074 was the first to abuse the prwdn_delay
> and possibly because of it starting the PHY already in its PCS table
> (which it never should have).
>
> I'm talking about the intent of pwrdn_delay which was to add a delay
> after powering-on the phy and before starting it.
>
> The vendor driver has a 1 ms delay after starting the PHY and before it
> starts polling as the PHY on newer SoC tend to take > 1 ms before they
> are ready.
>
> So, I still claim that that delay in the vendor driver is a different
> one entirely.
>
>> Thus, I'd say, the PCIe delay should be moved after the registers
>> programming.
>
> No, not necessarily. Again, that's an optimisation in the vendor driver
> to avoid polling so many times. Since I can say for sure that there are
> no PHY that start in less than 1 ms, I wouldn't add it unconditionally.
I don't think it's an optimization. For me it looks like some kind of
stabilization delay before touching pipe clocks.
>
> Either way, separate change.
>
>>>> I think we can either drop this delay completely, or move it before
>>>> read_poll_timeout().
>>>
>>> It definitely shouldn't be used for any new platforms, but I opted for
>>> the conservative route of keeping it in case some of the older platforms
>>> actually do need it.
>>>
>>> My bet is that this is all copy-paste cruft that could be removed, but
>>> I'd rather do that as a separate follow-on change. Perhaps after testing
>>> some more SoC after removing the delay.
>>>
>>> SC8280XP certainly doesn't need it.
>>
>> I think in our case this delay just falls into status polling. We'd
>> probably need it, if we'd add the noretain handling.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to here ("noretain
> handling")?
From what I see in the downstream (4.19 at hand), the sequence is the
following:
program_phy_config() // including SW_RESET & START_CTRL
delay
for pipe clocks:
clk_set_flags(info->hdl, CLKFLAG_NORETAIN_MEM)
clk_set_flags(info->hdl, CLKFLAG_NORETAIN_PERIPH)
set clock rates, prepare & enable pipe clocks
wmb()
poll for the PHY STATUS
--
With best wishes
Dmitry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-11 14:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-11 13:14 [PATCH 00/13] phy: qcom-qmp: further prep cleanups Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 01/13] phy: qcom-qmp: drop regulator error message Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:52 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 02/13] phy: qcom-qmp: drop superfluous comments Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:51 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 03/13] phy: qcom-qmp-combo: drop unused in-layout configuration Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:51 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 04/13] phy: qcom-qmp-pcie: drop redundant ipq8074 power on Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:51 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 05/13] phy: qcom-qmp-pcie-msm8996: drop unused in-layout configuration Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:53 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 06/13] phy: qcom-qmp-ufs: " Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:53 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 07/13] phy: qcom-qmp-usb: " Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 08/13] phy: qcom-qmp-pcie: drop power-down delay config Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:46 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 13:53 ` Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 14:04 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 14:17 ` Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 14:41 ` Dmitry Baryshkov [this message]
2022-10-12 6:39 ` Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:49 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 09/13] phy: qcom-qmp-pcie-msm8996: " Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:49 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 10/13] phy: qcom-qmp-combo: drop sc8280xp power-down delay Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 14:07 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 14:21 ` Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 11/13] phy: qcom-qmp-combo: drop power-down delay config Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 14:05 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 12/13] phy: qcom-qmp-usb: drop sc8280xp power-down delay Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 13:14 ` [PATCH 13/13] phy: qcom-qmp-usb: drop power-down delay config Johan Hovold
2022-10-11 14:05 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
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