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From: Tudor Ambarus <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>
To: linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: [PATCH] spi: Replace `dummy.nbytes` with `dummy.ncycles`
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 15:54:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b8b61fc0-1e4f-146b-2036-03fda5359585@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <460ef5ff3846b409b322ca53559e2476@walle.cc>



On 09.03.2023 15:33, Michael Walle wrote:
>>>> The controllers that can talk in dummy ncycles don't need the
>>>> dummy.{buswidth, dtr} fields.
>>>>
>>>> The controllers that can't talk in dummy cycles, but only on a "byte"
>>>> boundary need both buswidth and dtr fields. Assume a flash needs 32
>>>> dummy cycles for an op on 8D-8D-8D mode. If the controller does not 
>>>> have
>>>> the buswidth and dtr info, it can't convert the dummy ncycles to 
>>>> nbytes.
>>>> If he knows only that buswidth is 8, it will convert ncycles to 4 
>>>> bytes.
>>>> If dtr is also specified it converts ncycles to 2 bytes.
>>>
>>> No they don't need it. Lets take your semper flash and assume it needs
>>> 12 latency cycles. SPI-NOR will set ncycles to 12 *regardless of the 
>>> mode
>>> or dtr setting*. The controller then knows we need 12 clock cycles. 
>>> It has
>>> then to figure out how that can be achieved. E.g. if it can only do the
>>> "old" byte programming and is in quad mode, good for it. It will send 6
>>> dummy bytes, which will result in 12 dummy clock cycles, because 1 byte
>>> takes two clock cycles in quad SDR mode. If its in octal mode, send 12
>>> bytes. If its in dual mode, send 3 bytes. Obiously, it cannot be in
>>> single bit mode, because it cannot send 1.5 bytes..
>>>
>>
>> You miss the fact that you can have 1-1-4. What buswidth do you use
>> for dummy, the address buswidth or the data buswidth?
> 
> Doesn't matter, does it? The driver is free to chose, 1, 4, or anything
> else. You don't sample any data during the dummy phase.
> To answer your question: single for instruction, single for address,
> whatever you choose for dummy as long as there are ncycles space between
> address and data, and quad for data.

Huh? How does the controller chose, based on what?

> 
> Depending on the capabilites of the hardware it will likely be 1 or 4.
> 
>> What happens if crazy protocols like 1S-1S-8D appear? What buswidth
>> and transfer mode are you going to use for dummy?
> 
> Also doesn't matter. What matters is how many dummy clock cycles you
> do. Again, they don't depent on the mode. You just have to count
> the clock cycles between the address and the data phase (and that is
> what your ncycle parameter will tell the controller).
> 
>> And please don't tell me that "we're going to assume that
>> dummy.buswidth = address.buswidth because that's what we currently do
>> in SPI NOR", because I'm not convinced that the assumption is correct.
> 
> No, it doesn't matter :)
> 
> -michael

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-09 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-11 17:45 [PATCH] spi: Replace `dummy.nbytes` with `dummy.ncycles` Sergiu Moga
2022-09-12  9:44 ` Patrice CHOTARD
2022-09-12 10:58   ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-09-12 11:52 ` Mark Brown
2022-09-25 22:03 ` Serge Semin
2022-09-26  9:05   ` Sergiu.Moga
2022-09-26 17:24     ` Serge Semin
2022-09-27  8:21       ` Sergiu.Moga
2023-03-08  9:04       ` Tudor Ambarus
2023-03-09  8:38         ` Michael Walle
2023-03-09 10:42           ` Tudor Ambarus
2023-03-09 10:56             ` Michael Walle
2023-03-09 12:09               ` Tudor Ambarus
2023-03-09 12:35                 ` Michael Walle
2023-03-09 13:23                   ` Tudor Ambarus
2023-03-09 13:33                     ` Michael Walle
2023-03-09 13:54                       ` Tudor Ambarus [this message]
2023-03-09 14:01                         ` Michael Walle
2023-03-09 14:19                           ` Chuanhong Guo
2023-03-09 15:41                             ` Michael Walle
2023-03-09 15:41                           ` Tudor Ambarus
2023-03-04  5:59 ` Tudor Ambarus

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