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From: myrkraverk@users.sourceforge.net
To: jeff <jko@save-net.com>
Cc: linux-assembly@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Does anyone code in assembler today?
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:20:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16232.42472.874460.34671@xiaoyu.tekken> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200309171020.17639.jko@save-net.com>

Hi,

Well, for my part I'm programming assembly in Linux *on my PlayStation
2* so most of the discussion here simply doesn't apply to me.  I don't
have an intel processor -- nor do I know how to assembly one.

NOTE TO THE CURIOUS: Before asking about Linux and PlayStation 2 or
making any sort of remarks, please check playstation2-linux.com
first.  Funny remarks are funny -- once!

So most of what goes on on this list is simply noise to me -- but if
you're looking for application of assembly programming the PlayStation
2 is deffiently a good one.  Most commercial games are written in
combination of C/C++ and assembly, and -- afaik -- there's no compiler
for the vector processing units.


Johann

P.S.	Sorry for bad posting style, but this really isn't a Q/A mail.

jeff writes:
 > I guess most programmers work in Java one of the
 > newer object oriented languages.   Or maybe
 > Linux is not ideal for assembler and the few remaining
 > coders use other platforms?
 > 
 > The level of activity on this list and others indicate
 > the assembler community is not very active.   That
 > is one indicator.  Another is the number of people
 > interested in new programs.  Ten years ago when
 > i released a program, a large number of people
 > jumped on it to look at the code.  My release of a
 > few days ago resulted in three responses.
 > 
 > So.. maybe we are a small community which is
 > difficult to join?  That's OK, there is always a niche
 > for small fast code and as systems mature the
 > competition moves from features to speed. 
 > 
 > I think this happened to some extent with DOS.  Once
 > it matured the companies needed something new to
 > sell.  They had a problem with the competition building
 > fast programs optimized in .asm.  This happened with
 > spreadsheets and other programs.
 > 
 > Of course, the argument is that hardware is getting faster
 > and speed is no longer an issue.  Also, memory is cheap
 > and big bloated programs are best because they get into the
 > market quickly.  It is much easier to train programmers
 > in the newer languages and todays tools isolates everyone
 > from knowing much about hardware or hex.
 > 
 > So.. i wonder if it would be better to port some old DOS
 > libraries to work under X or stay with the console?  I see
 > some asm activity in graphics and games.  There is also
 > the embedded linux area...
 > 
 >  jeff (looking for an interesting asm project)
 > 
 > 
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-- 
Sometimes I do not think at all!  Does that mean I don't exist
in the mean time?


  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-17 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-11 11:01 I/O Rafael Diniz
2003-09-11 11:07 ` I/O Rudolf Marek
2003-09-11 13:21 ` I/O peter w krause
2003-09-15 14:30   ` Assembler Tools jeff
2003-09-16  2:15     ` Rafael Diniz
2003-09-17 17:20     ` Does anyone code in assembler today? jeff
2003-09-17 18:20       ` myrkraverk [this message]
2003-09-18  6:31       ` Frederic Marmond
2003-09-18  7:57         ` peter w krause
     [not found]           ` <3F696702.9040407@eprocess.fr>
2003-09-18 10:46             ` peter w krause
2003-09-18 16:10         ` jeff
2003-09-21 10:19           ` Maciej Hrebien
2003-09-21 12:05             ` Stephen Satchell
2003-09-22  9:53           ` peter w krause
2003-09-18 13:00       ` linuxassembly
2003-09-16  2:42 ` Art of Assembly Is Real! Randall Hyde
2003-09-16  6:54   ` Brien B.
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-18 12:48 Does anyone code in assembler today? Jason Roberts

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