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From: LC Bruzenak <lenny@magitekltd.com>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Audit: save audit_backlog_limit audit messages in case auditd comes back
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:50:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1206719416.6600.17.camel@homeserver> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1206665523.2878.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 20:52 -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 17:50 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > On Thursday 27 March 2008 17:37:44 Eric Paris wrote:
> > > This is useful to collect audit messages during bootup and even when auditd
> > > is stopped.  This is NOT a reliable mechanism, it does not ever call
> > > audit_panic, nor should it. 
> > 
> > Thanks Eric for working on this. We've needed this for quite a while so that 
> > we can see some of the avcs that happen during boot.
> > 
> > 
> > > If auditd never starts the kernel will hold by default up to 64 messages
> > > in memory forever.
> > 
> > I have an idea. Maybe this behavior could be enabled if audit=1 is passed as a 
> > boot parameter. In this way, you would know that the user intended for the 
> > audit daemon to start at some point. You could then call audit panic or 
> > whatever else is normal. If no audit=1 is passed, you could just do the 
> > printk like usual and not waste memory. Would this be helpful?
> 
> I could probably do that.  I also could conditionalize it on auditd ever
> having run.  I can't imagine it is normal for auditd to be running and
> then stopped forever....

Unless it is an IDS-like event. Or a sysadmin makes a mistake.

> 
> Anyone else see value in that situation?  Only do it on boot if audit=1
> is passed?  Does anyone actually use that command line option?

I will start using it. Audit collected as early in the boot sequence as
possible is better.

> 
> -Eric
> 
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-28 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-27 21:37 [PATCH] Audit: save audit_backlog_limit audit messages in case auditd comes back Eric Paris
2008-03-27 21:50 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-28  0:52   ` Eric Paris
2008-03-28 14:18     ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-28 15:24     ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-28 15:50     ` LC Bruzenak [this message]

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