public inbox for linux-audit@redhat.com
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: LC Bruzenak <lenny@magitekltd.com>
To: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Performance of libauparse
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:20:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1222888813.15037.111.camel@homeserver> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200810011438.17154.paul.moore@hp.com>


On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 14:38 -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 October 2008 9:15:27 am Eric Paris wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 15:18 -0400, John Dennis wrote:
> > > Eric likes to point out we can't change the
> > > kernel
> >
> > Close, but not quite.  I say we can't change the kernel without
> > complete backwards compatibility.  Show me the right solution and we
> > can get there, we just can't throw away what's already there.
> 
> Not really aimed at anyone in particular, just throwing out a possible 
> solution ...
> 
>  1. By default kernel starts up and emits existing string format, legacy
>     audit daemons function normally
>  2. If a new audit daemon starts it sends a message to the kernel
>     indicating that it can handle the new format and the kernel starts
>     emitting newly formatted records[1]
>  3. The new audit daemon records the audit records in whatever format it
>     is configured to so: legacy string format, raw binary format, and/or
>     some wacky format yet to be invented[2]
> 
> [1] The new record format should probably a binary format which makes 
> use of netlink attributes, this would avoid much of the string parsing 
> and versioning problems we have seen previously.  There is ample 
> evidence of kernel subsystems using netlink in a similar fashion 
> successfully.
> 
> [2] If done carefully, we might be able to allow administrators to 
> create their own on-disk string formats without the need to write an 
> entire dispatcher plug-in.
> 

This isn't a vote against (since I haven't fielded yet), but I could see
it could throw the user-space tools a curve (especially option [2])
regarding legacy data.
Might have to register the format spec inside the log file?

LCB.

-- 
LC (Lenny) Bruzenak
lenny@magitekltd.com

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-01 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-30 13:34 Performance of libauparse Matthew Booth
2008-09-30 18:34 ` Steve Grubb
2008-09-30 19:18 ` John Dennis
2008-09-30 22:18   ` Matthew Booth
2008-10-01 13:15   ` Eric Paris
2008-10-01 16:08     ` Matthew Booth
2008-10-01 18:46       ` Steve Grubb
2008-10-01 18:38     ` Paul Moore
2008-10-01 19:20       ` LC Bruzenak [this message]
2008-10-01 19:31         ` LC Bruzenak
2008-10-01 21:19         ` Paul Moore

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1222888813.15037.111.camel@homeserver \
    --to=lenny@magitekltd.com \
    --cc=linux-audit@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox