From: Paul Moore <pmoore@redhat.com>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>,
linux-audit@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Al Viro <aviro@redhat.com>, Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] [RFC] seccomp: give BPF x32 bit when restoring x32 filter
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:21:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <14055169.hesOIjNJgN@sifl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1405095407.2357.1.camel@flatline.rdu.redhat.com>
On Friday, July 11, 2014 12:16:47 PM Eric Paris wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 12:11 -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 10, 2014 09:06:02 PM H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > > Incidentally: do seccomp users know that on an x86-64 system you can
> > > recevie system calls from any of the x86 architectures, regardless of
> > > how the program is invoked? (This is unusual, so normally denying those
> > > "alien" calls is the right thing to do.)
> >
> > I obviously can't speak for all seccomp users, but libseccomp handles this
> > by checking the seccomp_data->arch value at the start of the filter and
> > killing (by default) any non-native architectures. If you want, you can
> > change this default behavior or add support for other architectures (e.g.
> > create a filter that allows both x86-64 and x32 but disallows x86, or any
> > combination of the three for that matter).
>
> Maybe libseccomp does some HORRIFIC contortions under the hood, but the
> interface is crap... Since seccomp_data->arch can't distinguish between
> X32 and X86_64. If I write a seccomp filter which says
>
> KILL arch != x86_64
> KILL init_module
> ALLOW everything else
>
> I can still call init_module, I just have to use the X32 variant.
>
> If libseccomp is translating:
>
> KILL arch != x86_64 into:
>
> KILL arch != x86_64
> KILL syscall_nr >= 2000
>
> That's just showing how dumb the kernel interface is... Good for you
> guys, but the kernel is just being dumb :)
You're not going to hear me ever say that I like how the x32 ABI was done, it
is a real mess from a seccomp filter point of view and we have to do some
nasty stuff in libseccomp to make it all work correctly (see my comments on
the libseccomp-devel list regarding my severe displeasure over x32), but
what's done is done.
I think it's too late to change the x32 seccomp filter ABI.
--
paul moore
security and virtualization @ redhat
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-11 16:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-11 3:38 [PATCH 0/3] [RFC] X32: fix syscall_get_nr while not breaking seccomp BPF Richard Guy Briggs
2014-07-11 3:38 ` [PATCH 1/3] [RFC] audit: add AUDIT_ARCH_X86_X32 arch definition Richard Guy Briggs
2014-07-11 16:15 ` Paul Moore
2014-07-11 3:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] [RFC] seccomp: give BPF x32 bit when restoring x32 filter Richard Guy Briggs
2014-07-11 4:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-11 16:11 ` Paul Moore
2014-07-11 16:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-11 16:16 ` Eric Paris
2014-07-11 16:21 ` Paul Moore [this message]
2014-07-11 16:23 ` Eric Paris
2014-07-11 16:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-11 16:32 ` Paul Moore
2014-07-11 18:31 ` Eric Paris
2014-07-11 19:36 ` Paul Moore
2014-07-11 22:48 ` Kees Cook
2014-07-11 22:52 ` Kees Cook
2014-07-11 22:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-11 23:02 ` Kees Cook
2014-07-11 23:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-11 16:36 ` Paul Moore
2014-07-11 16:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-11 3:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] [RFC] Revert "x86: remove the x32 syscall bitmask from syscall_get_nr()" Richard Guy Briggs
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