From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: rgb@redhat.com, linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH ghak10 v3 0/3] audit: Log modifying adjtimex(2) calls
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:36:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1705496.Wz0b9QrjNH@x2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhTQELW_WNkTzJ9fPHgftpxC=ML4nQ8WSueUi9gMJCDxfQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:36:11 PM EDT Paul Moore wrote:
> > Changes in v2:
> > - The audit_adjtime() function has been modified to only log those
> > fields that contain values that are actually used, resulting in more
> > compact records.
> > - The audit_adjtime() call has been moved to do_adjtimex() in
> > timekeeping.c
> > - Added an additional patch (for review) that simplifies the detection
> > if the syscall is read-only.
>
> Looking at these new records, and trying to guess a bit at the
> original intent of the feature request, I think we may be going a bit
> overboard with the information we are logging. I'm thinking all we
> really need to capture in the audit log is the system time both before
> and after the change (for the sake of simplicity I suggest using a
> data format similar to the audit record timestamp).
>
> While I created the GH issue for this, I believe the original request
> came from a Red Hat BZ that Steve created; Steve, what sort of
> certification requirements (if any?) are there for logging system time
> changes?
That we record any attempts to change the system time. The problem is that
adjtimex passes a data structure that is opaque to user space. So, we can't
tell if someone is setting time, adjusting a tolerance, or simply retrieving
status.
With stime, we can clearly see the time that was sent into the kernel and it
unconditionally sets time. With settimeofday, it uses a data structure that
we cannot see, but whatever the contents are we are definitely setting time.
Same goes for clock_settime. Only in 1 case do we actually see what the time
is. So, that is not really needed. So, I think what we need to know is did
the syscall do anything that adjusted the system's notion of time? And that's
all.
-Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-18 19:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-03 12:44 [RFC PATCH ghak10 v3 0/3] audit: Log modifying adjtimex(2) calls Ondrej Mosnacek
2018-07-03 12:44 ` [RFC PATCH ghak10 v3 1/3] audit: Add AUDIT_TIME_* record types Ondrej Mosnacek
2018-07-03 12:44 ` [RFC PATCH ghak10 v3 2/3] audit: Add functions to log time adjustments Ondrej Mosnacek
2018-07-03 12:44 ` [RFC PATCH ghak10 v3 3/3] timekeeping/ntp: Audit clock/NTP params adjustments Ondrej Mosnacek
2018-07-13 19:21 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-07-16 8:15 ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2018-07-16 17:36 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-07-18 18:36 ` [RFC PATCH ghak10 v3 0/3] audit: Log modifying adjtimex(2) calls Paul Moore
2018-07-18 19:36 ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2018-07-18 19:59 ` Paul Moore
2018-07-18 22:34 ` Steve Grubb
2018-07-18 23:58 ` Paul Moore
2018-07-19 7:36 ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2018-07-19 23:01 ` Paul Moore
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