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From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Kay Hayen <kayhayen@gmx.de>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com, alex@segv.de
Subject: Re: Audit for live supervision
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:47:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808191647.16340.sgrubb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200808192233.59007.kayhayen@gmx.de>

On Tuesday 19 August 2008 16:33:58 Kay Hayen wrote:
> > Only one audit pid is allowed for security purposes.
>
> Damn security. I saw that patch while googling, and hoped it wasn't merged,
> but seems it was.

Its been there since 2.6.6 kernel. IOW - day 1.


> I don't really understand why it is helping security, if I need to kill
> auditd before I can open the netlink socket. For both I need root rights.

The queueing is complicated and if you have a group of processes it gets real 
messy. The audit queue tries hard for guaranteed delivery or take the system 
down if the flow is not working right. Its not like syslog or iptables 
logging.


> There isn't any SELinux in the play, is there?

SE Linux helps for MLS systems, but for CAPP, it doesn't come into play. The 
data flowing through the audit system could be very sensitive. Anyone needing 
access to the stream either needs to replace auditd, write their own 
dispatcher, or write a plugin to the shipped dispatcher. This way the admin 
knows exactly what processes have access to the data.

-Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-19 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-14  7:14 Audit for live supervision Kay Hayen
2008-08-14 14:04 ` Steve Grubb
2008-08-15  6:43   ` Kay Hayen
2008-08-15 12:54     ` Steve Grubb
2008-08-16 11:19       ` Kay Hayen
2008-08-18 15:10         ` Steve Grubb
2008-08-19  6:45           ` Kay Hayen
2008-08-19 14:14             ` John Dennis
2008-08-19 17:46               ` Kay Hayen
2008-08-19 18:18                 ` Steve Grubb
2008-08-19 14:47             ` Steve Grubb
2008-08-19 18:23               ` Kay Hayen
2008-08-19 18:39                 ` Steve Grubb
2008-08-19 20:33                   ` Kay Hayen
2008-08-19 20:47                     ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2008-08-19 21:35                       ` Kay Hayen
2008-08-19 21:47                         ` Steve Grubb

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