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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/12] pid: rewrite task helper functions avoiding task->pid and task->tgid
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:36:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130823063621.GO31370@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130822214347.GB21110@madcap2.tricolour.ca>

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 05:43:47PM -0400, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:05:55PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 05:32:03PM -0400, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > > This stops these four task helper functions from using the deprecated and
> > > error-prone task->pid and task->tgid.
> > > 
> > > (informed by ebiederman's ea5a4d01)
> > > Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >  include/linux/sched.h |    8 ++++----
> > >  1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
> > > index 8e69807..46e739d 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/sched.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
> > > @@ -1579,7 +1579,7 @@ static inline int pid_alive(struct task_struct *p)
> > >   */
> > >  static inline int is_global_init(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > >  {
> > > -	return tsk->pid == 1;
> > > +	return task_pid_nr(tsk) == 1;
> > >  }
> > >  
> > >  extern struct pid *cad_pid;
> > > @@ -1930,7 +1930,7 @@ extern struct task_struct *idle_task(int cpu);
> > >   */
> > >  static inline bool is_idle_task(const struct task_struct *p)
> > >  {
> > > -	return p->pid == 0;
> > > +	return task_pid(p) == &init_struct_pid;
> > >  }
> > >  extern struct task_struct *curr_task(int cpu);
> > >  extern void set_curr_task(int cpu, struct task_struct *p);
> > 
> > Why would you ever want to do this? It just makes these tests more
> > expensive for no gain what so ff'ing ever.
> 
> Backups are generally considered a good idea, but in this case, I'd
> quote:
> 	"A man with one watch knows what time it is. A man with two is
> 	never certain."

Except that's not the case, with namespaces there's a clear hierarchy
and the task_struct::pid is the one true value aka. root namespace.

Furthermore idle threads really are special and it doesn't make sense to
address them in any but the root namespace, doubly so because only
kernel space does this.

As for the init thread, that function is called is_global_init() for
crying out loud, what numb nut doesn't get that that's supposed to be
using the root namespace?

Seriously, you namespace guys should stop messing things up and
confusing yourselves and others.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-23  6:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-20 21:31 [PATCH 00/12] RFC: steps to make audit pid namespace-safe Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 01/12] audit: Kill the unused struct audit_aux_data_capset Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 02/12] audit: fix netlink portid naming and types Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 03/12] pid: get ppid pid_t of task in init_pid_ns safely Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 17:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-30 19:56     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-30 20:37       ` John Johansen
2013-08-30 22:41         ` [PATCH 1/3] apparmor: fix capability to not use the current task, during reporting John Johansen
2013-08-30 22:42         ` [PATCH 2/3] apparmor: remove tsk field from the apparmor_audit_struct John Johansen
2013-08-30 22:43         ` [PATCH 03/3] apparmor: remove parent task info from audit logging John Johansen
2013-09-03 18:31         ` [PATCH 03/12] pid: get ppid pid_t of task in init_pid_ns safely Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-11 14:47           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-11 16:44             ` John Johansen
2013-12-11 17:19               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 04/12] audit: convert PPIDs to the inital PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 05/12] pid: get pid_t of task in init_pid_ns correctly Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 06/12] audit: Simplify and correct audit_log_capset Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 07/12] audit: store audit_pid as a struct pid pointer Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 08/12] audit: anchor all pid references in the initial pid namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 09/12] pid: modify task_pid_nr to work without task->pid Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-16 21:03   ` [PATCH] pid: change task_struct::pid to read-only Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-17  9:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20131220044826.GF14944@madcap2.tricolour.ca>
2013-12-20  4:48       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-17  9:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17 15:36     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-17 15:40       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-20 19:01         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-20 20:19           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-20 21:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-22 16:03             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-23 19:24               ` Richard Guy Briggs
     [not found]     ` <20131220140417.GE14884@madcap2.tricolour.ca>
2014-01-23 19:32       ` [PATCH 0/7][RFC] pid: changes to support audit Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32         ` [PATCH 1/7] pid: change task_struct::pid to read-only Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32         ` [PATCH 2/7] compiler: CONST_CAST makes writing const vars easier and obvious Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32         ` [PATCH 3/7] pid: use the CONST_CAST macro instead to write to const task_struct::pid Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32         ` [PATCH 4/7] pid: modify task_tgid_nr to work without task->tgid Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 18:35           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-21 20:47             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-24 18:40               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-23 19:32         ` [PATCH 5/7] pid: rewrite task helper function is_global_init() avoiding task->pid Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 18:39           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-21 16:10             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32         ` [PATCH 6/7] pid: mark struct task const in helper functions Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32         ` [PATCH 7/7] pid: get pid_t ppid of task in init_pid_ns Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 19:01           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-21 18:10             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-24 18:32               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-17 20:14           ` Tony Luck
2014-03-17 20:15             ` Eric Paris
2014-01-23 21:25         ` [PATCH 0/7][RFC] pid: changes to support audit Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-24  6:14           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-24  8:52             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-24 14:31               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 16:18         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 17:47           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-19 18:15             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 19:08               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 10/12] pid: modify task_tgid_nr to work without task->tgid Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 11/12] pid: rewrite task helper functions avoiding task->pid and task->tgid Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-22 19:08   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 22:07     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 16:15       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-16 17:35       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-16 21:05         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-16 22:20           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-17  9:34             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17  9:48               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-20  4:54               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-22 20:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-22 21:43     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-23  6:36       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-08-27  2:37         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 12:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-27 21:35             ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-08-28  8:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-23 19:28       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-27  3:04         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 17:11           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-30 19:06             ` audit looks unmaintained? [was: Re: [PATCH 11/12] pid: rewrite task helper functions avoiding task->pid and task->tgid] Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-30 19:54               ` Steve Grubb
2013-09-08 15:54                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-09-10 17:20                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-09-13 18:42                     ` Steve Grubb
2013-09-14 18:10                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-09-13 18:28                   ` Steve Grubb
2013-09-14 18:08                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 12/12] pid: mark struct task const in helper functions Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27 ` [PATCH 0/5][RFC][v2] steps to make audit pid namespace-safe Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27   ` [PATCH 1/5] pid: get pid_t ppid of task in init_pid_ns Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 17:04     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-23 22:27   ` [PATCH 2/5] audit: convert PPIDs to the inital PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 17:07     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-23 22:27   ` [PATCH 3/5] audit: store audit_pid as a struct pid pointer Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 17:51     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-21 23:37       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27   ` [PATCH 4/5] audit: anchor all pid references in the initial pid namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 18:06     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-19 20:28       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27   ` [PATCH 5/5] audit: allow user processes to log from another PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57   ` [PATCH 0/5][RFC][v3] steps to make audit pid namespace-safe Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57     ` [PATCH 1/5] pid: get pid_t ppid of task in init_pid_ns Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57     ` [PATCH 2/5] audit: convert PPIDs to the inital PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57     ` [PATCH 3/5] audit: store audit_pid as a struct pid pointer Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57     ` [PATCH 4/5] audit: anchor all pid references in the initial pid namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57     ` [PATCH 5/5] audit: allow user processes to log from another PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs

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