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From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Maupertuis Philippe <philippe.maupertuis@worldline.com>
Cc: "linux-audit@redhat.com" <linux-audit@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Setting loginuid for a process starting at boot
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:05:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2073409.YWMcLiFAGF@x2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A35547AE65CDA84F93D4012BDFB5D5553DBFB1CABB@FRVDX100.fr01.awl.atosorigin.net>

On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:17:43 PM Maupertuis Philippe wrote:
> The process listens on a network port. It receives custom commands that are
> executed on the server. Only one remote host can communicate with the host,
> the user identifies himself on the remote host only. The goal is to allow
> the user to run  the same scripts  on a  lot of server in one command.

OK, then it sounds like you have an entry point daemon and it should be 
setting the loginuid.


> Please don't tell me it's silly or insecure or that softwares exist to do
> that in a secure  way. I would like to be able to at least monitor what
> happend throughthis channel. That means the listening process and all its
> childs where the valuable changes to the system are made. It's why I was
> thinking of setting a dedicated loginuid.
> 
> Maybe, eventually it would turn in a PAM-aware application with a proper
> user authentication and my problems will be solved.
> 
> If a simple echo does the trick what is the use of audit_setloginuid or
> pam_loginuid ? 

They hide the implementation details in case it changes someday.

>Any root script can defeat audit with a single command.

There are restrictions (fs/proc/base.c). You can only set the loginuid on 
yourself.

> I am gobsmacked !
> I hope I missed something.

And besides, any root process can run auditctl -e 0 and disable the audit 
system (unless it was marked immutable).

-Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-13 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-12 22:00 Setting loginuid for a process starting at boot Maupertuis Philippe
2014-01-13 20:12 ` Eric Paris
2014-01-13 20:16   ` Steve Grubb
2014-01-13 21:17     ` RE : " Maupertuis Philippe
2014-01-13 22:05       ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2014-01-14 13:13         ` Maupertuis Philippe
2014-01-14 14:33           ` Steve Grubb
2014-01-14 15:55             ` Maupertuis Philippe
2014-01-14 16:15               ` Steve Grubb

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