From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com, Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: audit looks unmaintained? [was: Re: [PATCH 11/12] pid: rewrite task helper functions avoiding task->pid and task->tgid]
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:28:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3158155.5GaQBOllp8@x2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130908155435.GC4663@redhat.com>
On Sunday, September 08, 2013 05:54:35 PM Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Sorry for delay, vacation.
>
> First of all, I do not pretend I understand this code. This was mostly
> the question, and in fact I mostly asked about audit_bprm() in 0/1.
>
> However,
>
> On 08/30, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > On Friday, August 30, 2013 03:06:46 PM Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 07:11:34PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > Btw. audit looks unmaintained... if you are going to take care of
> > > > this code, perhaps you can look at
> > > >
> > > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=137589907108485
> > > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=137590271809664
> >
> > You don't want to clear the TIF audit flag when context == NULL. What that
> > will do is make a bunch of inauditable processes. There are times when
> > audit is disabled and then re-enabled later. If the flag gets cleared,
> > then a task's syscall will never enter the auditing framework from
> > kernel/entry_64.S.
> >
> > That flag is 0 when auditing has never ever been enabled. If auditing is
> > enabled, it should always be a 1 unless the task filter has determined
> > that
> > this process should not be audited ever. In practice, this is almost never
> > used. But ensuring the TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT set to 1 on all processes is why
> > we have the boot argument. Not setting audit=1 on the boot arguments
> > means that any process running before the audit daemon enables auditing
> > can never ever be audited because the only place its set is when
> > processes are cloned.
>
> Then why audit_alloc() doesn't set TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT unconditionally?
The code I'm looking at does right at the end of the function.
> And I do not understand "when context == NULL" above. Say,
> audit_syscall_entry() does nothing if !audit_context, and nobody except
> copy_process() does audit_alloc(). So why do we need to trigger the audit's
> paths if it is NULL?
Because if you enter the audit framework, that means auditing has been turned
on at some point in the past, and could be turned back on at some point in the
future. If auditing has never been enabled, then you never enter the audit
framework at all. If the context is NULL, then audit is not currently enabled.
-Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-13 18:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-20 21:31 [PATCH 00/12] RFC: steps to make audit pid namespace-safe Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 01/12] audit: Kill the unused struct audit_aux_data_capset Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 02/12] audit: fix netlink portid naming and types Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 03/12] pid: get ppid pid_t of task in init_pid_ns safely Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 17:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-30 19:56 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-30 20:37 ` John Johansen
2013-08-30 22:41 ` [PATCH 1/3] apparmor: fix capability to not use the current task, during reporting John Johansen
2013-08-30 22:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] apparmor: remove tsk field from the apparmor_audit_struct John Johansen
2013-08-30 22:43 ` [PATCH 03/3] apparmor: remove parent task info from audit logging John Johansen
2013-09-03 18:31 ` [PATCH 03/12] pid: get ppid pid_t of task in init_pid_ns safely Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-11 14:47 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-11 16:44 ` John Johansen
2013-12-11 17:19 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 04/12] audit: convert PPIDs to the inital PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 05/12] pid: get pid_t of task in init_pid_ns correctly Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 06/12] audit: Simplify and correct audit_log_capset Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:31 ` [PATCH 07/12] audit: store audit_pid as a struct pid pointer Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 08/12] audit: anchor all pid references in the initial pid namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 09/12] pid: modify task_pid_nr to work without task->pid Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-16 21:03 ` [PATCH] pid: change task_struct::pid to read-only Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-17 9:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20131220044826.GF14944@madcap2.tricolour.ca>
2013-12-20 4:48 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-17 9:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17 15:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-17 15:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-20 19:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-20 20:19 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-20 21:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-22 16:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-23 19:24 ` Richard Guy Briggs
[not found] ` <20131220140417.GE14884@madcap2.tricolour.ca>
2014-01-23 19:32 ` [PATCH 0/7][RFC] pid: changes to support audit Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32 ` [PATCH 1/7] pid: change task_struct::pid to read-only Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32 ` [PATCH 2/7] compiler: CONST_CAST makes writing const vars easier and obvious Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32 ` [PATCH 3/7] pid: use the CONST_CAST macro instead to write to const task_struct::pid Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32 ` [PATCH 4/7] pid: modify task_tgid_nr to work without task->tgid Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 18:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-21 20:47 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-24 18:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-23 19:32 ` [PATCH 5/7] pid: rewrite task helper function is_global_init() avoiding task->pid Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 18:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-21 16:10 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32 ` [PATCH 6/7] pid: mark struct task const in helper functions Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-23 19:32 ` [PATCH 7/7] pid: get pid_t ppid of task in init_pid_ns Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 19:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-21 18:10 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-24 18:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-17 20:14 ` Tony Luck
2014-03-17 20:15 ` Eric Paris
2014-01-23 21:25 ` [PATCH 0/7][RFC] pid: changes to support audit Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-24 6:14 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-24 8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-24 14:31 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 16:18 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 17:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-19 18:15 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-20 19:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 10/12] pid: modify task_tgid_nr to work without task->tgid Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 11/12] pid: rewrite task helper functions avoiding task->pid and task->tgid Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-22 19:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 22:07 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 16:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-16 17:35 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-16 21:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-16 22:20 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-17 9:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17 9:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-20 4:54 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-22 20:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-22 21:43 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-23 6:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-27 2:37 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 12:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-27 21:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-08-28 8:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-23 19:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-27 3:04 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-27 17:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-30 19:06 ` audit looks unmaintained? [was: Re: [PATCH 11/12] pid: rewrite task helper functions avoiding task->pid and task->tgid] Richard Guy Briggs
2013-08-30 19:54 ` Steve Grubb
2013-09-08 15:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-09-10 17:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-09-13 18:42 ` Steve Grubb
2013-09-14 18:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-09-13 18:28 ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2013-09-14 18:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH 12/12] pid: mark struct task const in helper functions Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27 ` [PATCH 0/5][RFC][v2] steps to make audit pid namespace-safe Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27 ` [PATCH 1/5] pid: get pid_t ppid of task in init_pid_ns Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 17:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-23 22:27 ` [PATCH 2/5] audit: convert PPIDs to the inital PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 17:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-23 22:27 ` [PATCH 3/5] audit: store audit_pid as a struct pid pointer Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 17:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-21 23:37 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27 ` [PATCH 4/5] audit: anchor all pid references in the initial pid namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-30 18:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-19 20:28 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-12-23 22:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] audit: allow user processes to log from another PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57 ` [PATCH 0/5][RFC][v3] steps to make audit pid namespace-safe Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57 ` [PATCH 1/5] pid: get pid_t ppid of task in init_pid_ns Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57 ` [PATCH 2/5] audit: convert PPIDs to the inital PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57 ` [PATCH 3/5] audit: store audit_pid as a struct pid pointer Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57 ` [PATCH 4/5] audit: anchor all pid references in the initial pid namespace Richard Guy Briggs
2014-02-19 20:57 ` [PATCH 5/5] audit: allow user processes to log from another PID namespace Richard Guy Briggs
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