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From: Linda Knippers <linda.knippers@hp.com>
To: Michael C Thompson <thompsmc@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Linux Audit <linux-audit@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: What is expected: exclude action on the never list?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:40:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <447CC9CE.90303@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <447CC6EB.4070205@us.ibm.com>

Michael C Thompson wrote:
> Linda Knippers wrote:
> 
>> Steve Grubb wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday 30 May 2006 16:45, Michael C Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would read the second rule as saying "do not exclude messages of type
>>>> SYSCALL". Is this a correct interpretation of the rule?
>>>
>>>
>>> That sounds reasonable, but I don't think that's what the kernel
>>> does. Maybe it should be corrected. I think its a 1 or 2 liner.
>>
>>
>> According to the manpage, I'd say the kernel is behaving as expected.
>>
>> "Never" means never generate an audit record and "exclude" means even if
>> one was generated, it should be excluded.  The two options together are
>> somewhat redundant but I don't think "never" was intended to mean "never
>> do what the previous option just said to do", at least not according to
>> the manpage.
> 
> 
> Agreed. The wording is... confusing when compared to the rule. I guess
> the real question which needs to be answered is "Do we need to be able
> to force the capture of a rule?"... since audit by default does not
> audit anything, and you have to explicitly add filters, I would say "no"
> to this question.
> 
> That said, I think we should leave "exclude,always" as is, and either
> change the man page to say something about "exclude,never" being the
> same as "exclude,always", _or_ change the userspace to indicate that
> "exclude,never" doesn't make sense.

I'm not sure "always" makes sense either, at least not as described in
the manpage since it says to always write out record at syscall exit
time.

-- ljk

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-30 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-30 20:45 What is expected: exclude action on the never list? Michael C Thompson
2006-05-30 21:12 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-30 21:17   ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-30 22:27     ` Michael C Thompson
2006-05-30 22:40       ` Linda Knippers [this message]
2006-05-30 22:43         ` Michael C Thompson

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