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From: Joshua Brindle <jbrindle@tresys.com>
To: Karl MacMillan <kmacmillan@mentalrootkit.com>
Cc: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: missing avc message field names
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:29:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45C02948.9090607@tresys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45BFE7EC.8050609@mentalrootkit.com>

Karl MacMillan wrote:
> James Antill wrote:
>> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 09:49 -0500, Karl MacMillan wrote:
>>> Steve Grubb wrote:
>>>> ausearch -m all --raw | grep anything you want
>>> tail -f happens to be my favorite counter example, but I am certain 
>>> there are other useful tricks for monitoring logs that will break. 
>>> Not to mention the number of log monitoring and aggregation tools 
>>> that assume text logs.
>>
>>  To be fair the new audit dispatcher already has a plugin that does the
>> same thing as "tail -f" without needing to call stat(), and that'll be
>> released before auditd has binary logs ... although one could certainly
>> argue that it's not as obvious, it seems like a small price.
>>
>
> So you will have that wheel reinvented soon - that still leaves many, 
> many more that you have no control over.

Even with a tail replacement there has to be thousands of internally 
written and maintained log monitoring and reporting apps that will 
break, this is a fundamental change in how logging works on linux, not 
something that can or should be changed on a whim (or otherwise).

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-31  5:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20070129185542.32977.qmail@web51502.mail.yahoo.com>
2007-01-29 19:22 ` missing avc message field names Eamon Walsh
     [not found]   ` <45BE4971.6090601-+05T5uksL2qpZYMLLGbcSA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-29 19:43     ` Karl MacMillan
2007-01-29 20:07       ` Eamon Walsh
2007-01-29 20:56   ` Steve Grubb
2007-01-29 21:16     ` Karl MacMillan
2007-01-29 22:49       ` Steve Grubb
2007-01-29 23:48         ` Eamon Walsh
     [not found]           ` <45BE87E0.5090109-+05T5uksL2qpZYMLLGbcSA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-30 12:25             ` Russell Coker
     [not found]         ` <200701291749.21897.sgrubb-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-30 14:49           ` Karl MacMillan
2007-01-30 17:06             ` Joshua Brindle
2007-01-30 17:28               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-30 18:45               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-01-30 17:42             ` Steve Grubb
2007-01-30 22:53             ` James Antill
     [not found]               ` <1170197588.3373.28.camel-pBdgC7Q4sO52KDkfy0k2sw@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-31  0:50                 ` Karl MacMillan
2007-01-31  5:29                   ` Joshua Brindle [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <45C02948.9090607-5TQdPaFcblfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-31 22:59                       ` Russell Coker
2007-02-01 11:40                         ` Steve Grubb

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