From: Gao feng <gaofeng-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
To: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
eparis-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
linux-audit-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
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sgrubb-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC Part1 PATCH 00/20 v2] Add namespace support for audit
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:16:33 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52A6CDE1.8090404@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131209182619.GD6849@sergelap>
On 12/10/2013 02:26 AM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Gao feng (gaofeng-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org):
>> On 12/07/2013 06:12 AM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>>> Quoting Gao feng (gaofeng-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org):
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> On 10/24/2013 03:31 PM, Gao feng wrote:
>>>>> Here is the v1 patchset: http://lwn.net/Articles/549546/
>>>>>
>>>>> The main target of this patchset is allowing user in audit
>>>>> namespace to generate the USER_MSG type of audit message,
>>>>> some userspace tools need to generate audit message, or
>>>>> these tools will broken.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I really need this feature, right now,some process such as
>>>> logind are broken in container becase we leak of this feature.
>>>
>>> Your set doesn't address loginuid though right? How exactly do you
>>> expect to do that? If user violates MAC policy and audit msg is
>>> sent to init user ns by mac subsys, you need the loginuid from
>>> init_audit_ns. where will that be stored if you allow updates
>>> of loginuid in auditns?
>>>
>> This patchset doesn't include the loginuid part.
>>
>> the loginuid is stored in task as before.
>> In my opinion, when task creates a new audit namespace, this task's
>> loginuid will be reset to zero, so the children tasks can set their
>> loginuid. Does this change break the MAC?
>
> I think so, yes. In an LSPP selinux environment, if the task
> manages to trigger an selinux deny rule which is audited, then
> the loginuid must make sense on the host. Now presumably it
> will get translated to the mapped host uid, and we can figure
> out the host uid owning it through /etc/subuid. But that adds
> /etc/subuid as a new part of the TCB without any warning <shrug>
> So in that sense, for LSPP, it breaks it.
>
Looks like my opinion is incorrect.
In the audit-next tree, Eric added a new audit feature to allow privileged
user to disable AUDIT_LOGINUID_IMMUTABLE. after AUDIT_LOGINUID_IMMUTABLE
is disabled, the privileged user can reset/set the loginuid of task. I
think this way is safe since only privileged user can do the change.
So I will not change the loginuid part.
Thanks for your information Serge :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-10 8:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-24 7:31 [RFC Part1 PATCH 00/20 v2] Add namespace support for audit Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 01/20] Audit: make audit netlink socket net namespace unaware Gao feng
[not found] ` <1382599925-25143-1-git-send-email-gaofeng-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 02/20] audit: introduce configure option CONFIG_AUDIT_NS Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 03/20] audit: make audit_skb_queue per audit namespace Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 04/20] audit: make audit_skb_hold_queue " Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 06/20] audit: make kauditd_task " Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 08/20] audit: make kaudit_wait queue " Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:32 ` [PATCH 15/20] audit: Log audit pid config change in " Gao feng
2013-10-31 3:52 ` [RFC Part1 PATCH 00/20 v2] Add namespace support for audit Gao feng
[not found] ` <5271D3FC.8000709-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-05 7:51 ` Gao feng
[not found] ` <5278A39B.6000303-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-05 7:52 ` Gao feng
[not found] ` <5278A3D5.3010309-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-05 8:11 ` Li Zefan
[not found] ` <5278A828.50406-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-05 8:56 ` Gao feng
[not found] ` <5278B2D7.6060409-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-05 19:14 ` Richard Guy Briggs
[not found] ` <20131105191459.GF24236-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-07 5:51 ` Gao feng
2013-11-21 7:57 ` Gao feng
2013-12-06 21:31 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20131206213135.GA22445-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-09 2:29 ` Gao feng
[not found] ` <52A52AFB.2020703-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-23 23:47 ` Richard Guy Briggs
[not found] ` <20131223234723.GA23101-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-24 9:53 ` Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 05/20] audit: make audit_pid per audit namespace Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 07/20] aduit: make audit_nlk_portid " Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 09/20] audit: make audit_backlog_wait " Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 10/20] audit: allow un-init audit ns to change pid and portid only Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 11/20] audit: use proper audit namespace in audit_receive_msg Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 12/20] audit: use proper audit_namespace in kauditd_thread Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 13/20] audit: introduce new audit logging interface for audit namespace Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:31 ` [PATCH 14/20] audit: pass proper audit namespace to audit_log_common_recv_msg Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:32 ` [PATCH 16/20] audit: allow GET, SET, USER MSG operations in audit namespace Gao feng
[not found] ` <1382599925-25143-17-git-send-email-gaofeng-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-06 22:00 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20131206220033.GB22445-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-09 1:47 ` Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:32 ` [PATCH 17/20] nsproxy: don't make create_new_namespaces static Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:32 ` [PATCH 18/20] audit: add new message type AUDIT_CREATE_NS Gao feng
[not found] ` <1382599925-25143-19-git-send-email-gaofeng-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-06 22:10 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20131206221014.GC22445-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-09 1:59 ` Gao feng
[not found] ` <52A52400.7060008-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-09 17:53 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-12-10 5:34 ` Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:32 ` [PATCH 19/20] audit: make audit_backlog_limit per audit namespace Gao feng
2013-10-24 7:32 ` [PATCH 20/20] audit: introduce /proc/<pid>/audit_backlog_limit Gao feng
2013-12-04 8:31 ` [RFC Part1 PATCH 00/20 v2] Add namespace support for audit Gao feng
[not found] ` <529EE877.7030701-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-06 22:12 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20131206221241.GD22445-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-09 2:06 ` Gao feng
[not found] ` <52A52599.3070502-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-09 18:26 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-12-10 8:16 ` Gao feng [this message]
[not found] ` <52A6CDE1.8090404-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-10 16:51 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-12-10 19:50 ` Eric Paris
[not found] ` <1386705056.23829.13.camel-OjZBOOqb7SR7cYLChsl7DafLeoKvNuZc@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-10 20:36 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20131210203648.GA5835-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-16 3:39 ` Gao feng
[not found] ` <52AE75D7.4020604-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-20 21:15 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20131220211557.GA418-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-24 9:32 ` Gao feng
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