From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: LC Bruzenak Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] audit: log join and part events to the read-only multicast log socket Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 10:51:49 -0500 Message-ID: <5447D295.2010504@magitekltd.com> References: <30ef5c1ba42b52953e5684a0322975c3f0fadc77.1412706089.git.rgb@redhat.com> <2131923.Byl8GhZuQt@x2> <1645943.LlOpH1gJUB@sifl> <1978142.LNMGsIevqD@x2> <1413990725.30946.84.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1570152560664878675==" Return-path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx11.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.16]) by int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s9MFpq82029079 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:51:53 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f43.google.com (mail-oi0-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s9MFpoUf019437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:51:51 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f43.google.com with SMTP id u20so2961988oif.16 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.31.226] (65-36-126-38.dyn.grandenetworks.net. [65.36.126.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a15sm6506334oih.17.2014.10.22.08.51.49 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:51:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1413990725.30946.84.camel@localhost> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-audit-bounces@redhat.com Errors-To: linux-audit-bounces@redhat.com To: linux-audit@redhat.com List-Id: linux-audit@redhat.com This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============1570152560664878675== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020700090001080808080701" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020700090001080808080701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/22/2014 10:12 AM, Eric Paris wrote: > On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 10:25 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > >> 1) For the *at syscalls, can we get the path from the FD being passed = to be >> able to reconstruct what is being accessed? > You might sometimes be able to get A path. But every time anyone ever > says THE path they've already lost. There is no THE path. There might= > be NO path. Every single request with THE path is always doomed to > fail. IIUC we've got to have some assurance that the path is legit for forensic= s. Technically I believe I understand and concur with what you are saying Eric, but as a guy on the far end of the process I know I need to be able to reference a complete path to a FD. One which we believe did exist at the time the mod occurred. To me, sometimes isn't really good enough. But A path probably is. =2E.. >> 9) Can we get events for a watched file even when a user's permissions= do not >> allow full path resolution? > No. No? 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