From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: LC Bruzenak Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 05/10] audit: log creation and deletion of namespace instances Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 11:36:41 -0500 Message-ID: <5554CF19.3000401@magitekltd.com> References: <2918460.dpKocsKt4o@x2> <87iobvnp1t.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> <3156096.4s7Ni5U1tG@x2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2797364054309806068==" Return-path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx13.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.18]) by int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4EGaj2q024654 for ; Thu, 14 May 2015 12:36:45 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4EGahZX026458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 14 May 2015 12:36:44 -0400 Received: by obcus9 with SMTP id us9so57012724obc.2 for ; Thu, 14 May 2015 09:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.31.226] (65-36-126-38.dyn.grandenetworks.net. [65.36.126.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id sj5sm14841677oeb.13.2015.05.14.09.36.41 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 May 2015 09:36:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3156096.4s7Ni5U1tG@x2> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-audit-bounces@redhat.com Errors-To: linux-audit-bounces@redhat.com To: linux-audit@redhat.com List-Id: linux-audit@redhat.com This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============2797364054309806068== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040705020606010202060006" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040705020606010202060006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/14/2015 11:21 AM, Steve Grubb wrote: > Then I'd suggest we either scrap this set of patches and forget auditin= g of > containers. (This would have the effect of disallowing them in a lot of= > environments because violations of security policy can't be detected.) Again +1. I personally have envisioned a use-case in which I feel containers would = be architecturally ideal, however in my situation, and I'm fairly sure=20 anyone for whom the security requirements matter (i.e. WHY we use=20 SElinux in the first place), this is mandatory. Without context-aware definitive audit records which discretely identify = people/actions/objects, the use of any otherwise attractive technology=20 is untenable. 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