From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>, Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] ima: Differentiate auditing policy rules from "audit" actions
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:50:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <59f11491-15db-2ace-ff7d-9840a58310a7@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhRTzB5+swKg7TaT00nMOmoTMoBCxRvBuwB5dRahntokQw@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/01/2018 04:13 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Stefan Berger
> <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> On 05/30/2018 07:34 PM, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-30 17:38, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>>> On 05/30/2018 05:22 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Stefan Berger
>>>>> <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/30/2018 08:49 AM, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2018-05-24 16:11, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>>>>>>> The AUDIT_INTEGRITY_RULE is used for auditing IMA policy rules and
>>>>>>>> the IMA "audit" policy action. This patch defines
>>>>>>>> AUDIT_INTEGRITY_POLICY_RULE to reflect the IMA policy rules.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With this change we now call integrity_audit_msg_common() to get
>>>>>>>> common integrity auditing fields. This now produces the following
>>>>>>>> record when parsing an IMA policy rule:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> type=UNKNOWN[1806] msg=audit(1527004216.690:311): action=dont_measure
>>>>>>>> \
>>>>>>>> fsmagic=0x9fa0 pid=1613 uid=0 auid=0 ses=2 \
>>>>>>>> subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 \
>>>>>>>> op=policy_update cause=parse_rule comm="echo"
>>>>>>>> exe="/usr/bin/echo" \
>>>>>>>> tty=tty2 res=1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> include/uapi/linux/audit.h | 3 ++-
>>>>>>>> security/integrity/ima/ima_policy.c | 5 +++--
>>>>>>>> 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/audit.h b/include/uapi/linux/audit.h
>>>>>>>> index 4e61a9e05132..776e0abd35cf 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/audit.h
>>>>>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/audit.h
>>>>>>>> @@ -146,7 +146,8 @@
>>>>>>>> #define AUDIT_INTEGRITY_STATUS 1802 /* Integrity
>>>>>>>> enable
>>>>>>>> status */
>>>>>>>> #define AUDIT_INTEGRITY_HASH 1803 /* Integrity HASH type */
>>>>>>>> #define AUDIT_INTEGRITY_PCR 1804 /* PCR invalidation msgs
>>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>> -#define AUDIT_INTEGRITY_RULE 1805 /* policy rule */
>>>>>>>> +#define AUDIT_INTEGRITY_RULE 1805 /* IMA "audit" action policy
>>>>>>>> msgs */
>>>>>>>> +#define AUDIT_INTEGRITY_POLICY_RULE 1806 /* IMA policy rules */
>>>>>>>> #define AUDIT_KERNEL 2000 /* Asynchronous
>>>>>>>> audit
>>>>>>>> record. NOT A REQUEST. */
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/security/integrity/ima/ima_policy.c
>>>>>>>> b/security/integrity/ima/ima_policy.c
>>>>>>>> index 3aed25a7178a..a8ae47a386b4 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_policy.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_policy.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -634,7 +634,7 @@ static int ima_parse_rule(char *rule, struct
>>>>>>>> ima_rule_entry *entry)
>>>>>>>> int result = 0;
>>>>>>>> ab = integrity_audit_log_start(NULL, GFP_KERNEL,
>>>>>>>> - AUDIT_INTEGRITY_RULE);
>>>>>>>> + AUDIT_INTEGRITY_POLICY_RULE);
>>>>>>> Is it possible to connect this record to a syscall by replacing the
>>>>>>> first parameter (NULL) by current->context?
>>>>> We're likely going to need to "associate" this record (audit speak for
>>>>> making the first parameter non-NULL) with others for the audit
>>>>> container ID work. If you do it now, Richard's patches will likely
>>>>> get a few lines smaller and that will surely make him a bit happier :)
>>>> Richard is also introducing a local context that we can then create and
>>>> use
>>>> instead of the NULL. Can we not use that then?
>>> That is for records for which there is no syscall or user associated.
>>>
>>> In fact there is another recent change that would be better to use than
>>> current->audit_context, which is the function audit_context().
>>> See commit cdfb6b3 ("audit: use inline function to get audit context").
>>>
>>>> Steven seems to say: "We don't want to add syscall records to everything.
>>>> That messes up schemas and existing code. The integrity events are 1
>>>> record
>>>> in size and should stay that way. This saves disk space and improves
>>>> readability."
>>>>
>>>>>> We would have to fix current->context in this case since it is NULL. We
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> to this location by root cat'ing a policy or writing a policy filename
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> /sys/kernel/security/ima/policy.
>>>>> Perhaps I'm missing something, but current in this case should point
>>>>> to the process which is writing to the policy file, yes?
>>>> Yes, but current->context is NULL for some reason.
>>> Is it always this way? If it isn't, which it should not be, we should
>>> find out why. Well, we should find out why this is NULL anyways, since
>>> it shouldn't be.
>>
>> When someone writes a policy for IMA into securityfs, it's always NULL.
>> There's another location where IMA uses the current->audit_context, and
>> that's here:
>>
>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/security/integrity/ima/ima_api.c#L323
>>
>> At this location we sometimes see a (background) process with an
>> audit_context but in the majority of cases it's current->audit_context is
>> NULL. Starting a process as root or also non-root user, with the appropriate
>> IMA audit policy rules set, we always see a NULL audit_context here.
> What does your audit configuration look like?
>
> Depending on your configuration a NULL audit_context can be expected,
> see audit_dummy_context(). I believe the default Fedora audit config
> will leave you with a NULL audit_context for all processes. I also
> believe that unless you explicitly set "audit=1" on the kernel command
> line the init/systemd process will have a NULL audit_context (there
> was actually a range of kernels where even setting "audit=1" wouldn't
> be sufficient due to a bug we fixed a little while ago).
>
> Look at the audit_alloc() function, it is called when a new process is
> fork'd and is responsible for allocating a new audit_context. If the
> currently loaded audit config dictates that auditing is to be disabled
> for this new process (state == AUDIT_DISABLED) then an audit_context
> is not allocated and current->context remains NULL.
I found that out also. The background process that had the audit context
was created when a different audit policy was active and therefore still
has the audit_context and creates the associated syscall messages. The
new processes don't get it because of -a task,never rule.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-01 20:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-24 20:10 [PATCH 0/8] IMA: work on audit records produced by IMA Stefan Berger
2018-05-24 20:10 ` [PATCH 1/8] ima: Call audit_log_string() rather than logging it untrusted Stefan Berger
2018-05-29 20:29 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-24 20:10 ` [PATCH 2/8] ima: Use audit_log_format() rather than audit_log_string() Stefan Berger
2018-05-29 20:31 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-24 20:11 ` [PATCH 3/8] audit: Implement audit_log_tty() Stefan Berger
2018-05-29 21:07 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-30 19:46 ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-24 20:11 ` [PATCH 4/8] audit: Allow others to call audit_log_d_path_exe() Stefan Berger
2018-05-29 21:18 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-24 20:11 ` [PATCH 5/8] integrity: Add exe= and tty= before res= to integrity audits Stefan Berger
2018-05-29 21:19 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-29 21:35 ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-29 21:47 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-29 22:58 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-30 13:04 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-30 21:15 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-30 12:17 ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-30 21:14 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-24 20:11 ` [PATCH 6/8] integrity: Factor out common part of integrity_audit_msg() Stefan Berger
2018-05-29 21:32 ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-30 13:04 ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-24 20:11 ` [PATCH 7/8] ima: Do not audit if CONFIG_INTEGRITY_AUDIT is not set Stefan Berger
2018-05-24 20:11 ` [PATCH 8/8] ima: Differentiate auditing policy rules from "audit" actions Stefan Berger
2018-05-29 21:30 ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-30 13:54 ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-30 15:15 ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-30 15:25 ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-30 16:27 ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-30 19:54 ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-30 21:24 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-30 21:49 ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-30 22:00 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-30 22:15 ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-30 22:41 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-30 23:54 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-31 0:46 ` Lenny Bruzenak
2018-05-31 15:51 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-30 12:49 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-05-30 12:55 ` Steve Grubb
2018-05-30 13:08 ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-30 21:22 ` Paul Moore
2018-05-30 21:38 ` Stefan Berger
2018-05-30 23:34 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-06-01 20:00 ` Stefan Berger
2018-06-01 20:13 ` Paul Moore
2018-06-01 20:21 ` Paul Moore
2018-06-01 20:50 ` Stefan Berger [this message]
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