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[68.61.232.219]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r8sm1129252ilt.54.2020.08.12.07.18.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Aug 2020 07:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [RFC PATCH v5 00/11] Integrity Policy Enforcement LSM (IPE) From: Chuck Lever In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 10:18:41 -0400 Message-Id: <70603A4E-A548-4ECB-97D4-D3102CE77701@gmail.com> References: <20200728213614.586312-1-deven.desai@linux.microsoft.com> <20200802115545.GA1162@bug> <20200802140300.GA2975990@sasha-vm> <20200802143143.GB20261@amd> <1596386606.4087.20.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <1596639689.3457.17.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <329E8DBA-049E-4959-AFD4-9D118DEB176E@gmail.com> To: James Morris X-Mimecast-Impersonation-Protect: Policy=CLT - Impersonation Protection Definition; Similar Internal Domain=false; Similar Monitored External Domain=false; Custom External Domain=false; Mimecast External Domain=false; Newly Observed Domain=false; Internal User Name=false; Custom Display Name List=false; Reply-to Address Mismatch=false; Targeted Threat Dictionary=false; Mimecast Threat Dictionary=false; Custom Threat Dictionary=false; X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.11.54.5 X-loop: linux-audit@redhat.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 10:28:28 -0400 Cc: snitzer@redhat.com, Deven Bowers , Mimi Zohar , James Bottomley , dm-devel@redhat.com, tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com, Pavel Machek , agk@redhat.com, Sasha Levin , Jonathan Corbet , nramas@linux.microsoft.com, serge@hallyn.com, pasha.tatashin@soleen.com, Jann Horn , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro , Jens Axboe , mdsakib@microsoft.com, open list , linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-audit@redhat.com, linux-fsdevel , linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, jaskarankhurana@linux.microsoft.com X-BeenThere: linux-audit@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk List-Id: Linux Audit Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-audit-bounces@redhat.com Errors-To: linux-audit-bounces@redhat.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=linux-audit-bounces@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0.501 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Aug 11, 2020, at 5:03 PM, James Morris wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Aug 2020, Chuck Lever wrote: > >> My interest is in code integrity enforcement for executables stored >> in NFS files. >> >> My struggle with IPE is that due to its dependence on dm-verity, it >> does not seem to able to protect content that is stored separately >> from its execution environment and accessed via a file access >> protocol (FUSE, SMB, NFS, etc). > > It's not dependent on DM-Verity, that's just one possible integrity > verification mechanism, and one of two supported in this initial > version. The other is 'boot_verified' for a verified or otherwise trusted > rootfs. Future versions will support FS-Verity, at least. > > IPE was designed to be extensible in this way, with a strong separation of > mechanism and policy. I got that, but it looked to me like the whole system relied on having access to the block device under the filesystem. That's not possible for a remote filesystem like Ceph or NFS. I'm happy to take a closer look if someone can point me the right way. -- Chuck Lever chucklever@gmail.com -- Linux-audit mailing list Linux-audit@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-audit