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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Audit Mailing List <linux-audit@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	sgrubb@redhat.com, omosnace@redhat.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
	simo@redhat.com, Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	nhorman@tuxdriver.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH ghak90 V6 02/10] audit: add container id
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:32:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874l3ighvm.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190718005145.eshekqfr3navqqiy@madcap2.tricolour.ca> (Richard Guy Briggs's message of "Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:51:45 -0400")

Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com> writes:

> On 2019-07-16 19:30, Paul Moore wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 6:03 PM Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > On 2019-07-15 17:04, Paul Moore wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 2:06 PM Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > > > At this point I would say we are at an impasse unless we trust
>> > > > ns_capable() or we implement audit namespaces.
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure how we can trust ns_capable(), but if you can think of a
>> > > way I would love to hear it.  I'm also not sure how namespacing audit
>> > > is helpful (see my above comments), but if you think it is please
>> > > explain.
>> >
>> > So if we are not namespacing, why do we not trust capabilities?
>> 
>> We can trust capable(CAP_AUDIT_CONTROL) for enforcing audit container
>> ID policy, we can not trust ns_capable(CAP_AUDIT_CONTROL).
>
> Ok.  So does a process in a non-init user namespace have two (or more)
> sets of capabilities stored in creds, one in the init_user_ns, and one
> in current_user_ns?  Or does it get stripped of all its capabilities in
> init_user_ns once it has its own set in current_user_ns?  If the former,
> then we can use capable().  If the latter, we need another mechanism, as
> you have suggested might be needed.

The latter.  There is only one set of capabilities and it is in the
processes current user namespace.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-19 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-09  3:39 [PATCH ghak90 V6 00/10] audit: implement container identifier Richard Guy Briggs
2019-04-09  3:39 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 01/10] audit: collect audit task parameters Richard Guy Briggs
2019-04-09  3:39 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 02/10] audit: add container id Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-29 14:57   ` Tycho Andersen
2019-05-29 15:29     ` Paul Moore
2019-05-29 15:34       ` Tycho Andersen
2019-05-29 16:03         ` Paul Moore
2019-05-29 22:28           ` Tycho Andersen
2019-05-29 22:39             ` Paul Moore
2019-05-30 17:09               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2019-05-30 19:29                 ` Paul Moore
2019-05-30 21:29                   ` Tycho Andersen
2019-05-30 23:26                     ` Paul Moore
2019-05-31  0:20                       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-31 12:44                         ` Paul Moore
2019-06-03 20:24                           ` Steve Grubb
2019-06-18 22:12                             ` Paul Moore
2019-06-18 22:46                               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-07-08 18:12                       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-07-08 20:43                         ` Paul Moore
2019-07-15 21:09                         ` Paul Moore
2019-07-16 15:37                           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-07-16 16:08                             ` Paul Moore
2019-07-16 16:26                               ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-07-08 18:05                   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-07-15 21:04                     ` Paul Moore
2019-07-16 22:03                       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-07-16 23:30                         ` Paul Moore
2019-07-18  0:51                           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-07-18 21:52                             ` Paul Moore
2019-07-19 16:00                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-19 22:41                                 ` Burn Alting
2019-07-20  2:19                                 ` James Bottomley
2019-07-19 15:32                             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2019-07-08 17:51       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-07-15 20:38         ` Paul Moore
2019-07-16 19:38           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-07-16 21:39             ` Paul Moore
2019-07-19 16:07   ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-04-09  3:39 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 03/10] audit: read container ID of a process Richard Guy Briggs
2019-07-19 16:03   ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-19 17:05     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-04-09  3:39 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 04/10] audit: log container info of syscalls Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-29 22:15   ` Paul Moore
2019-05-30 13:08     ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2019-05-30 14:08       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-30 14:34         ` Paul Moore
2019-04-09  3:39 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 05/10] audit: add contid support for signalling the audit daemon Richard Guy Briggs
2019-04-09 12:57   ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2019-04-09 13:40     ` Paul Moore
2019-04-09 13:48       ` Neil Horman
2019-04-09 14:00         ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2019-04-09 14:07         ` Paul Moore
2019-04-09 13:53       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-04-09 14:08         ` Paul Moore
2019-04-09 13:46     ` Neil Horman
2019-04-09  3:39 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 06/10] audit: add support for non-syscall auxiliary records Richard Guy Briggs
2019-04-09  3:39 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 07/10] audit: add containerid support for user records Richard Guy Briggs
2019-04-09  3:39 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 08/10] audit: add containerid filtering Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-29 22:16   ` Paul Moore
2019-05-30 14:19     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-30 14:34       ` Paul Moore
2019-05-30 20:37         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-30 20:45           ` Paul Moore
2019-05-30 21:10             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-04-09  3:39 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 09/10] audit: add support for containerid to network namespaces Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-29 22:17   ` Paul Moore
2019-05-30 14:15     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-30 14:32       ` Paul Moore
2019-04-09  3:39 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 10/10] audit: NETFILTER_PKT: record each container ID associated with a netNS Richard Guy Briggs
2019-04-11 11:31 ` [PATCH ghak90 V6 00/10] audit: implement container identifier Richard Guy Briggs
2019-04-22 11:38 ` Neil Horman
2019-04-22 13:49   ` Paul Moore
2019-04-23 10:28     ` Neil Horman
2019-05-28 21:53     ` Daniel Walsh
2019-05-28 22:25       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-28 22:26       ` Paul Moore
2019-05-28 23:00         ` Steve Grubb
2019-05-29  0:43           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-05-29 12:02             ` Daniel Walsh
2019-05-29 13:17               ` Paul Moore
2019-05-29 14:07                 ` Daniel Walsh
2019-05-29 14:33                   ` Paul Moore
2019-05-29 13:14             ` Paul Moore
2019-05-29 22:26     ` Paul Moore
2019-05-30 13:08       ` Steve Grubb
2019-05-30 13:35         ` Paul Moore
2019-05-30 14:08           ` Richard Guy Briggs

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