From: LC Bruzenak <lenny@magitekltd.com>
To: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
Cc: Linux Audit <linux-audit@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: audit-1.7.16 released
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:52:24 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cecd18b00911161552t6f6d8a75g8b4c68d197b794fb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911161059.05503.sgrubb@redhat.com>
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Friday 13 November 2009 08:14:22 pm LC Bruzenak wrote:
>> Thinking about the client network connection timeout...
>>
>> I am wondering if this is a serious enough condition to warrant
>> inserting an audit event in addition to the syslog.
>
> If you have 1000 machines and the switch dies, you will have 4000 events when
> everything reconnects. The server will record its own events and the clients
> will record duplicate copies from their end. The audit trail has not been lost
> or anything bad happened. I think this is more of a systems management issue
> than security.
And for most systems I agree. For me, if a switch fails and I get 4000
events that is acceptable.
Actually, on my systems, if a switch dies the clients will all start
shutting down. Then after it is fixed, and they reboot, they will
resend their events the way you suggested - by grabbing all of them
from the estimated network send error time and push them into
audisp-remote (BTW works great; thanks!).
>
>> For me it is, because sending a termination event from the client is
>> both difficult and unreliable, and I am supposed to provide client
>> (sender) startup/shutdown data.
>
> You should have daemon start/end events at the aggregator. Are they not
> getting there? Also, the aggregator should have matching connect/disconnect
> events.
>
I am not getting the DAEMON_END events. In an orderly shutdown, the
network shuts down before the audit daemon does. In a catastrophic or
otherwise unintended termination, obviously there it would be of
benefit.
Thx,
LCB.
--
LC (Lenny) Bruzenak
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-16 23:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-17 15:55 audit-1.7.16 released Steve Grubb
2009-10-26 14:46 ` LC Bruzenak
2009-10-30 14:56 ` Steve Grubb
2009-11-14 1:14 ` LC Bruzenak
2009-11-16 15:59 ` Steve Grubb
2009-11-16 23:52 ` LC Bruzenak [this message]
2009-11-17 21:48 ` Steve Grubb
2009-11-18 3:52 ` LC Bruzenak
2009-11-18 4:16 ` LC Bruzenak
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