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From: Adriano Silva <adriano_da_silva@yahoo.com.br>
To: Eric Wheeler <bcache@lists.ewheeler.net>
Cc: Bcache Linux <linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Writeback cache all used.
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 01:38:28 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1796560585.1518472.1680140308938@mail.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <680c7a6-f9ab-329d-95a8-97b457a634e5@ewheeler.net>

Hello!

I use Kernel version 5.15, the default version of the Proxmox Virtualization Environment. I will try to change the kernel as soon as possible.

Is there anything interim I can do to improvise while I can't switch kernel versions?

Strangely, it doesn't reduce cache usage even when the computer is completely idle, with virtually no disk activity.

Thanks!



Em quarta-feira, 29 de março de 2023 às 16:18:39 BRT, Eric Wheeler <bcache@lists.ewheeler.net> escreveu: 





On Wed, 29 Mar 2023, Adriano Silva wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> I'm using bcache to support Ceph. Ten Cluster nodes have a bcache device 
> each consisting of an HDD block device and an NVMe cache. But I am 
> noticing what I consider to be a problem: My cache is 100% used even 
> though I still have 80% of the space available on my HDD.
> 
> It is true that there is more data written than would fit in the cache. 
> However, I imagine that most of them should only be on the HDD and not 
> in the cache, as they are cold data, almost never used.
> 
> I noticed that there was a significant drop in performance on the disks 
> (writes) and went to check. Benchmark tests confirmed this. Then I 
> noticed that there was 100% cache full and 85% cache evictable. There 
> was a bit of dirty cache. I found an internet message talking about the 
> garbage collector, so I tried the following:
> 
> echo 1 > /sys/block/bcache0/bcache/cache/internal/trigger_gc

What kernel version are you running?  There are some gc cache fixes out 
there, about v5.18 IIRC, that might help things.

--
Eric Wheeler




> 
> That doesn't seem to have helped.
> 
> Then I collected the following data:
> 
> --- bcache ---
> Device /dev/sdc (8:32)
> UUID 38e81dff-a7c9-449f-9ddd-182128a19b69
> Block Size 4.00KiB
> Bucket Size 256.00KiB
> Congested? False
> Read Congestion 0.0ms
> Write Congestion 0.0ms
> Total Cache Size 553.31GiB
> Total Cache Used 547.78GiB (99%)
> Total Unused Cache 5.53GiB (1%)
> Dirty Data 0B (0%)
> Evictable Cache 503.52GiB (91%)
> Replacement Policy [lru] fifo random
> Cache Mode writethrough [writeback] writearound none
> Total Hits 33361829 (99%)
> Total Missions 185029
> Total Bypass Hits 6203 (100%)
> Total Bypass Misses 0
> Total Bypassed 59.20MiB
> --- Cache Device ---
>    Device /dev/nvme0n1p1 (259:1)
>    Size 553.31GiB
>    Block Size 4.00KiB
>    Bucket Size 256.00KiB
>    Replacement Policy [lru] fifo random
>    Discard? False
>    I/O Errors 0
>    Metadata Written 395.00GiB
>    Data Written 1.50 TiB
>    Buckets 2266376
>    Cache Used 547.78GiB (99%)
>    Cache Unused 5.53GiB (0%)
> --- Backing Device ---
>    Device /dev/sdc (8:32)
>    Size 5.46TiB
>    Cache Mode writethrough [writeback] writearound none
>    Readhead
>    Sequential Cutoff 0B
>    Sequential merge? False
>    state clean
>    Writeback? true
>    Dirty Data 0B
>    Total Hits 32903077 (99%)
>    Total Missions 185029
>    Total Bypass Hits 6203 (100%)
>    Total Bypass Misses 0
>    Total Bypassed 59.20MiB
> 
> The dirty data has disappeared. But the cache remains 99% utilization, down just 1%. Already the evictable cache increased to 91%!
> 
> The impression I have is that this harms the write cache. That is, if I need to write again, the data goes straight to the HDD disks, as there is no space available in the Cache.
> 
> Shouldn't bcache remove the least used part of the cache?
> 
> Does anyone know why this isn't happening?
> 
> I may be talking nonsense, but isn't there a way to tell bcache to keep a write-free space rate in the cache automatically? Or even if it was manually by some command that I would trigger at low disk access times?
> 
> Thanks!
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-30  1:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1012241948.1268315.1680082721600.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2023-03-29  9:38 ` Writeback cache all used Adriano Silva
2023-03-29 19:18   ` Eric Wheeler
2023-03-30  1:38     ` Adriano Silva [this message]
2023-03-30  4:55   ` Martin McClure
2023-03-31  0:17     ` Adriano Silva
2023-04-02  0:01       ` Eric Wheeler
2023-04-03  7:14         ` Coly Li
2023-04-03 19:27           ` Eric Wheeler
2023-04-04  8:19             ` Coly Li
2023-04-04 20:29               ` Adriano Silva
2023-04-05 13:57                 ` Coly Li
2023-04-05 19:24                   ` Eric Wheeler
2023-04-05 19:31                   ` Adriano Silva
2023-04-06 21:21                     ` Eric Wheeler
2023-04-07  3:15                       ` Adriano Silva
2023-04-09 16:37                     ` Coly Li
2023-04-09 20:14                       ` Adriano Silva
2023-04-09 21:07                         ` Adriano Silva
2023-04-20 11:35                           ` Adriano Silva
2023-05-02 20:34                             ` Eric Wheeler
2023-05-04  4:56                               ` Coly Li
2023-05-04 14:34                                 ` Adriano Silva
2023-05-09  0:29                                   ` Eric Wheeler
2023-05-09  0:42                                 ` Eric Wheeler
2023-05-09  2:21                                   ` Adriano Silva
2023-05-11 23:10                                     ` Eric Wheeler
2023-05-12  5:13                                       ` Coly Li
2023-05-13 21:05                                         ` Eric Wheeler

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