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From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Kent Overstreet <koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-bcache-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	dm-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	agk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [Bcache v13 00/16]
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:29:07 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120530082907.GB32121@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hello, Kent.

Here are my additional impressions after trying to read a bit more
from make_request.

* Single char variable names suck.  It's difficult to tell what type
  they are, what they're used for and makes it difficult to track
  where the variable is used in the function - try to highlight the
  variable name in the editor.

  While not a strict rule, there are reasons why people tend to use
  single char variable names mostly for specific things - e.g. loop
  variables, transient integral variables or in numerical context.
  They're either localized to small scope of code so keeping track of
  them is easy and/or people are familiar with such usages.

  So, I would *much* prefer if I don't have to keep trying to track
  what the hell c, d, k, j, l mean and where they're used.

* Due to the various style issues, lack of documentation and other
  abundant idiosyncrasies in the code, at least I find the code almost
  aggravating.  It's complicated, difficult to read and full of
  unnecessary differences and smart tricks (smart is not a positive
  word here).  I don't think we want code like this in the kernel.
  Hell, I would get pretty upset if I encounter this type of code
  while trying to update some block API.

* Maybe I haven't seen enough of it but my feeling about closure
  hasn't gone up.  It likely has gone further down.  It doesn't
  actually seem to solve the pain points of async programming while
  adding ample headaches.  The usages that I followed could be easily
  served by either domain-specific async sequencer or the existing ref
  / async / whatever mechanism / convention.  If you have good example
  usage in bcache, please feel free to explain it.

So, I don't know.  If this is a driver for some super obscure device
that would fall out of use in some years and doesn't interact with /
affect the rest of the kernel, maybe we can put it in with big giant
blinking red warnings about the dragons inside, but as it currently
stands I don't think I can ack the code base and am afraid that it
would need non-trivial updates to be upstreamable.

I'm gonna stop reading and, for now

 NACKED-by: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-30  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-10  3:07 [Bcache v13 00/16] Kent Overstreet
2012-05-10  3:09 ` [Bcache v13 05/16] Export get_random_int() Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <5278ad493eb3ad441b2091b4c119d741e47f5c97.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 16:44     ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-10  3:09 ` [Bcache v13 07/16] Closures Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <82f00ebb4ee0404788c5bd7fbfa1fe4969f28ba1.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 22:41     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20120515224137.GA15386-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-18  6:29         ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]           ` <20120518062948.GA21163-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-18 10:02             ` Alan Cox
2012-05-21 19:40               ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-10  3:10 ` [Bcache v13 08/16] bcache: Documentation, and changes to generic code Kent Overstreet
2012-05-10  3:10 ` [Bcache v13 09/16] Bcache: generic utility code Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <c3f0ca2a499f532253d4c16a30837d43e237266a.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 19:35     ` Dan Williams
2012-05-10 21:42       ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-22 21:17     ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-23  3:12       ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]         ` <20120523031214.GA607-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23  3:36           ` Joe Perches
2012-05-23  4:50             ` [PATCH] Add human-readable units modifier to vsnprintf() Kent Overstreet
     [not found]               ` <20120523045023.GE607-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23  5:10                 ` Joe Perches
2012-05-23  5:22                   ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]                     ` <20120523052236.GA14312-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23  5:42                       ` Joe Perches
2012-05-23  6:04                         ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]                           ` <20120523060435.GD14312-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23  6:12                             ` Joe Perches
2012-05-23  5:08           ` [Bcache v13 09/16] Bcache: generic utility code Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20120523050808.GA29976-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23  5:54               ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]                 ` <20120523055402.GC14312-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23 16:51                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20120522211706.GH14339-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23 15:15         ` [dm-devel] " Vivek Goyal
     [not found]           ` <20120523151538.GJ14943-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23 15:33             ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-22 21:19     ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-10  3:10 ` [Bcache v13 10/16] bcache: Superblock/initialization/sysfs code Kent Overstreet
2012-05-10  3:10 ` [Bcache v13 11/16] bcache: Core btree code Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <7f1de39b6d7040b3fe271500776f4b985b21ea82.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-22 22:12     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20120522221259.GJ14339-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23  3:45         ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]           ` <20120523034546.GB607-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23  5:20             ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-23  5:34               ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]                 ` <20120523053403.GB14312-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23 17:24                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-22 22:40     ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-30  7:47     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20120530074708.GA32121-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  1:09         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-10  3:11 ` [Bcache v13 12/16] bcache: Bset code (lookups within a btree node) Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <5b5998d7d09ec36377acdb5d15665d1e4e818521.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-22 22:39     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20120522223932.GK14339-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23  4:21         ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]           ` <20120523042114.GC607-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23 17:55             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20120523175544.GC18143-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23 20:49                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <20120523204914.GC3933-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-24 18:11                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-10  3:11 ` [Bcache v13 13/16] bcache: Journalling Kent Overstreet
2012-05-10  3:11 ` [Bcache v13 14/16] bcache: Request, io and allocation code Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <9ea33658f2a71b3b9bd2ec10bee959bef146f23c.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-22 22:42     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20120522224255.GM14339-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-23  1:44         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-23  4:24         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-22 22:44     ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-30  7:23     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20120530072358.GB4854-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  0:52         ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]           ` <20120531005224.GA5645-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  2:43             ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-31  5:13               ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]                 ` <20120531051321.GA12602-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  6:45                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20120531064515.GA18984-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-01  2:37                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-31  2:45           ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-30  7:32     ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-10  3:11 ` [Bcache v13 15/16] bcache: Writeback Kent Overstreet
2012-05-10 13:54 ` [Bcache v13 00/16] Vivek Goyal
2012-05-10 15:03 ` [dm-devel] " Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <20120510150353.GI23768-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 15:34     ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found] ` <1188908028.170.1336674698865.JavaMail.mail@webmail09>
2012-05-10 18:49   ` [Bcache v13 11/16] bcache: Core btree code Joe Perches
2012-05-10 21:48     ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found] ` <cover.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10  3:08   ` [Bcache v13 01/16] Only clone bio vecs that are in use Kent Overstreet
     [not found]     ` <cb817596299fecd01ea36e4a80203f23165bda75.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 21:35       ` [dm-devel] " Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20120510213556.GO23768-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 21:42           ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]             ` <CAH+dOxJ2Vi=8Oq1zDZLmqD9-a_wgM=co3+xemw4XBoiDkh_4zg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-11 13:29               ` Jeff Moyer
2012-05-11 20:29                 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-15 16:19       ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-10  3:08   ` [Bcache v13 02/16] Bio pool freeing Kent Overstreet
     [not found]     ` <ba8ce9fcca87f192ff5f5d3a436eb8f4d0bcb006.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 21:32       ` [dm-devel] " Vivek Goyal
2012-05-10 21:39         ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]           ` <CAH+dOxL7QwcyUm46cK-pF1qK+kHYC=67iAaQDDwUF2ssJwergA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 21:52             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]               ` <20120510215208.GC2613-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 21:53                 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-15 16:24       ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-15 16:25       ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-10  3:08   ` [Bcache v13 03/16] Revert "rw_semaphore: remove up/down_read_non_owner" Kent Overstreet
     [not found]     ` <3f51ec3e69b8f471e2d1cc539f01504e2b903fed.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 16:37       ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-15 16:38     ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-10  3:09   ` [Bcache v13 04/16] Fix ratelimit macro to compile in c99 mode Kent Overstreet
     [not found]     ` <d7cfd6b70316efc3fe2ce575203d906a610e3670.1336619038.git.koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 16:43       ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-10  3:09   ` [Bcache v13 06/16] Export blk_fill_rwbs() Kent Overstreet
2012-05-10  3:11   ` [Bcache v13 16/16] bcache: Debug and tracing code Kent Overstreet
2012-05-10 18:34   ` [Bcache v13 00/16] Dan Williams
2012-05-18 10:06   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-30  8:29   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-05-30  8:54   ` Zhi Yong Wu

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