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From: Ankit Kapoor <ankitkap@google.com>
To: colyli@fygo.io
Cc: linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, kent.overstreet@linux.dev,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/1] bcache: track active bypass writes to prevent stale cache reads
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 19:01:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260617190152.3436375-1-ankitkap@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260617103356.3287775-1-ankitkap@google.com>

Hi Coly,

A quick update on my cover letter questions: after thinking more about
those edge cases, I realized my initial reasoning was flawed and
could lead to the exact stale-data reads this patch aims to prevent.

kzalloc failures: Bypassing the counter increment on memory failure
means the chunk is untracked. A subsequent read will incorrectly fail
to bypass the cache, but worse, if a later write does get tracked, the
decrements will become asymmetrical. I am wondering if a pre-allocated
fallback pool could be a potential solution other than the hijack
approach used by md-bitmap.

u16 counters: I realized clamping at U16_MAX completely breaks the
decrement path. If an I/O burst exceeds 65,535 writes, clamping loses
the true count. The counter will drop to 0 prematurely while writes
are still in flight, leaving a window for stale reads.

To ensure absolute robustness, using u32 and a fallback memory pool
seems necessary. I will hold off on sending a v3 so you can review
the core page-lock tracking logic in v2 first and provide your
suggestions on these two cases, but I wanted to correct my own
reasoning before you spend time reviewing those specific questions.

Thanks,
Ankit Kapoor

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-17 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-17 10:33 [PATCH v2 0/1] bcache: track active bypass writes to prevent stale cache reads Ankit Kapoor
2026-06-17 10:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Ankit Kapoor
2026-06-17 10:41 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Coly Li
2026-06-17 19:01 ` Ankit Kapoor [this message]

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