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From: Wido den Hollander <wido@42on.com>
To: Emmanuel Florac <eflorac@intellique.com>
Cc: linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Partitions on bcache devices
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:38:38 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <225072061.5367.1475163518820@ox.pcextreme.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160929160903.10b63b45@harpe.intellique.com>


> Op 29 september 2016 om 16:09 schreef Emmanuel Florac <eflorac@intellique.com>:
> 
> 
> Le Wed, 28 Sep 2016 21:14:50 +0200 (CEST)
> Wido den Hollander <wido@42on.com> écrivait:
> 
> > In both cases Ceph wants to create partitions on all disks it uses.
> > By adding bcache in between the performance can be boosted really
> > well. Fast NVM-e SSDs with some large SATA drives vastly improve
> > performance.
> > 
> > Yes, you could use LVM in between, but that just adds more layers and
> > is rather complex to accomplish with the current tooling. If bcache
> > would support partitions it would all be a lot easier.
> > 
> > And next to Ceph there might be other tools which can benefit from
> > partitions on bcache, who knows?
> 
> Two points: first I'm pretty sure LVM is the preferred method nowadays
> to create volumes on disks that are not boot drives. In fact, all
> enterprises distros propose to set up even the boot drive with LVM
> instead of partitionning and have been doing so for 10 years. 
> So I'm pretty sure having in ceph the option to use LVM instead of
> partitionning would be a darn good thing :)
> 

Thanks for the information :) Currently not really a option with Ceph.

> Second: are you absolutely sure you can't partition a bcache device?
> Does parted refuse to open and partition it? In which case, you may
> only be missing some appropriate udev rules.
> 

Yes, I'm sure. You can create the partitions, but they will not show up as devices which you can use due to a limitation in the bcache kernel driver.

Patches [0] are out there to make this work, but they are not in bcache yet.

Hence my thread if this support can be added.

Wido

[0]: https://yaple.net/2016/03/31/bcache-partitions-and-dkms/

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-29 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-28 13:45 Partitions on bcache devices Wido den Hollander
2016-09-28 17:11 ` Emmanuel Florac
2016-09-28 19:14   ` Wido den Hollander
2016-09-29 14:09     ` Emmanuel Florac
2016-09-29 15:38       ` Wido den Hollander [this message]
2016-09-29 16:25         ` Emmanuel Florac
2016-09-29 15:40       ` Jens-U. Mozdzen
2016-09-29 16:31         ` Emmanuel Florac
2016-09-29 16:52           ` Wido den Hollander
2016-09-29 17:11             ` Emmanuel Florac
2016-10-14 12:15               ` Wido den Hollander
2016-10-14 16:02                 ` Emmanuel Florac
2016-10-24  1:19                 ` [PATCH v1] bcache: partition support: add 16 minors per major Eric Wheeler
2016-10-24  1:22                   ` [PATCH v1] bcache: partition support: add 16 minors per bcacheN device Eric Wheeler
2016-10-25  7:05                   ` [PATCH v1] bcache: partition support: add 16 minors per major Wido den Hollander
2016-09-30  8:30           ` Partitions on bcache devices Jens-U. Mozdzen

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